Simon H Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 Guess you feel about midi instruments the way I feel about text littered with crappy animated smileys. We're all luddites in one way or another.... Simon (tongue planted firmly in cheek) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptarmigan Posted February 8, 2009 Author Share Posted February 8, 2009 (edited) Guess you feel about midi instruments the way I feel about text littered with crappy animated smileys. We're all luddites in one way or another.... Simon (tongue planted firmly in cheek) "(tongue planted firmly in cheek)" ... now I just wish I could find a Smiley one of those? Edited February 8, 2009 by Ptarmigan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catty Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 (edited) The problem with techno-psuedo-"musicianship" (Wii concertina, guitar hero, et al.) is that it lulls the masses away from more...legitimate...creative pursuits. Ah well, consumer beware. Like everything else, it's the degeneration of society. The only threat to "actual" concertina-ists, i believe, is that we will become more rareified...and thus, more valued! ( ) Technological experimentation isn't all bad in the arts, of course--some of this is the contemporary form of the Harry Partch aesthetic. Edited February 8, 2009 by catty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptarmigan Posted February 8, 2009 Author Share Posted February 8, 2009 The problem with techno-psuedo-"musicianship" (Wii concertina, guitar hero, et al.) is that it lulls those who could be applying their energies toward more...legitimate...creative pursuits. Ah well, consumer beware. Like everything else, it's the degeneration of society. The only threat to "actual" concertina-ists, i believe, is that we will become more rareified...and thus, more valued! or ................... just a bunch of unwanted & unloved Old Farts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catty Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 Dick, pop culture will eventually destroy the planet and possibly the universe. At least we can gather our families and friends and play hammered dulcimers, fiddles and concertinas while we're here. I, too, will be glad to leave the planet, and all its foibles, behind.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Collicutt Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 Don't these vile objects just make you want to weep? Midi Concertina Midi Bagpipes Midi Saxophone Midi Violin I'm sure the likes of Stradivari, Wheatstone & all other creators of wonderful, natural musical instruments, will be weeping buckets in their graves now! Granted, the Concertina still looks like a Concertina, but how long before that lovely old box shape we all know & love, becomes a shinny, gaudy coloured plastic or metal mockery of the original? Can you honestly picture those Midi Pipes being played at a Burns Night? Let's be honest, if Burns came back, I think we all know where he'd stick that Pipers plastic Midi Chanter! Quite frankly, I really don't care how close they come to sounding like the real thing they are just WRONG for me, on oh so many levels! Take a look at this wonderful photo of a Mongolian Orchestra Look at all these fascinating instruments, which took thousands of years of development, thanks to the efforts of countless musicians & master craftsmen instrument makers, to reach their stage of perfection. Is this how we are going to treat all art forms in the future? Now picture that same orchestra, standing there, each with some vile looking modern, high tech Midi equivalent of their ancient & traditional instrument in their hands! If that's the future of music, all I can say is ................... I'm glad I won't be around to see it! Is this how we are going to treat all art forms in the future? Maybe we should just paint a Smiley face on the Mona Lisa while we're at it! Here are a couple more options you might like to consider: A modern Midi Lisa But seriously, are the Dippers of this World, really just wasting their time? ............................................ Hi Dick Just to quote you from a previous thread about baritone anglo: ''That's one meaty sound you've got there Graham, although I must confess, I have absolutely no idea what a Wakker midi anglo actually looks like! For starters, how many sides does it have? Cheers Dick'' The answer is 6. Cheers Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptarmigan Posted February 8, 2009 Author Share Posted February 8, 2009 Dick, pop culture will eventually destroy the planet and possibly the universe. At least we can gather our families and friends and play hammered dulcimers, fiddles and concertinas while we're here. I, too, will be glad to leave the planet, and all its foibles, behind.. Hey Catty, I hope you are planning to stick around for a wee { or hopefully a large! { while longer? After all, we haven't had a chance to meet up & swop any tunes yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptarmigan Posted February 8, 2009 Author Share Posted February 8, 2009 Hi Dick Just to quote you from a previous thread about baritone anglo: ''That's one meaty sound you've got there Graham, although I must confess, I have absolutely no idea what a Wakker midi anglo actually looks like! For starters, how many sides does it have? Cheers Dick'' The answer is 6. Cheers Graham Hmmmmmmm So, does the end justify the means, Graham? Reminds me of the shipwrecked sailor, who said he had enjoyed eating a bowl of Cannibal Stew, having been tricked into thinking it was mutton! Graham, would you take out your Midi Anglo in a Session, in West Clare ..................... without an armed escort at your side? Cheers Dick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catty Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 Hey Catty, I hope you are planning to stick around for a wee { or hopefully a large! { while longer? Yeah...I'll take my soma and chill.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anglo-Irishman Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 Here are a couple more options you might like to consider: A modern Midi Lisa What a shame, messing up the Mona Lisa like that! The original is much more - well - folksy ... And that's definitely not a midi banjo. Old Leonardo could have invented it if he'd wanted to, but had the good taste not to Cheers, John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptarmigan Posted February 8, 2009 Author Share Posted February 8, 2009 Here are a couple more options you might like to consider: A modern Midi Lisa What a shame, messing up the Mona Lisa like that! The original is much more - well - folksy ... And that's definitely not a midi banjo. Old Leonardo could have invented it if he'd wanted to, but had the good taste not to Cheers, John Ha Ha John, that's a plucking great image! Aye, quite right, the true Gentleman Inventor is the one who knows how to invent a Midi Musical Instrument ... but doesn't! Cheers Dick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikefule Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 Reminds me of the shipwrecked sailor, who said he had enjoyed eating a bowl of Cannibal Stew... They would be unsuccessful cannibals, then, if they were in the stew? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fergus_fiddler Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 Honestly, I don't get the point of all this bussiness. I myself don't like midi instruments, but is ok if anyone else wants to play. I wouldn't pay 1500 quid for a midi concertina because I prefer a real one for that price ( and because is english system, too ). But, seriously, I pray for the fact that these 'instruments' become popular in the hope that the Jeffries, Dippers and Suttners prices will drop down. I've got two wonderful old fiddles and I would't exchange any of them for one of those plastic toys, but there's people who fancies them Right, but they're not my cup of tea... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Collicutt Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 Hi Dick Just to quote you from a previous thread about baritone anglo: ''That's one meaty sound you've got there Graham, although I must confess, I have absolutely no idea what a Wakker midi anglo actually looks like! For starters, how many sides does it have? Cheers Dick'' The answer is 6. Cheers Graham Hmmmmmmm So, does the end justify the means, Graham? Reminds me of the shipwrecked sailor, who said he had enjoyed eating a bowl of Cannibal Stew, having been tricked into thinking it was mutton! Graham, would you take out your Midi Anglo in a Session, in West Clare ..................... without an armed escort at your side? Cheers Dick I don't believe I need to justify anything, but I would never consider any midi instrument to be vile. I was not trying to trick anybody. No, but I would take my G/D. Cheers, Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catty Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 Yeah, I would play midi...or Wii or anything if I could get one in D/G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptarmigan Posted February 8, 2009 Author Share Posted February 8, 2009 Honestly, I don't get the point of all this bussiness. I myself don't like midi instruments, but is ok if anyone else wants to play. I wouldn't pay 1500 quid for a midi concertina because I prefer a real one for that price ( and because is english system, too ). But, seriously, I pray for the fact that these 'instruments' become popular in the hope that the Jeffries, Dippers and Suttners prices will drop down. I've got two wonderful old fiddles and I would't exchange any of them for one of those plastic toys, but there's people who fancies them Right, but they're not my cup of tea... Fergus, I like to be able to call a Spade a Spade, but nowadays, it seems you just can't tell what's what any more! Check out ........ Harp, Lute, Guitar, Harpsichord .... whatever it is, it certainly doesn't sound like a Concertina. Or Is it supposed to be a Violin, Viola, a Cello or a Double Bass? The notes say Cello & Bassoon, otherwise we would never really know, would we! that's pretending to be an Accordion! Wooopeee that's actually trying to be a Concertina In the good old days, at least you knew by looking at an instrument, what it was going to sound like, but now ??????????? I sometimes hear Fiddlers trying very, very hard to make their Fiddles sound like Bagpipes & I ask .......... WHY? Cheers Dick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Drinkwater Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 Reminds me of the shipwrecked sailor, who said he had enjoyed eating a bowl of Cannibal Stew... They would be unsuccessful cannibals, then, if they were in the stew? I know it's a bit off topic but I couldn't resist sharing a few cannibal jokes with you. Two cannibals were eating a clown. One said to the other:"Does this taste funny to you?" Two cannibals were sitting beside the fire after a sumptuous meal. One turned to the other and siad:"Your wife sure makes a good roast." "Yeah, I'm really going to miss her." What is the title of the best-selling cannibal book? "How To Serve Your Fellow Man." What did the cannibal get when he was late for dinner? The cold shoulder. A cannibal is a guy who goes into a restaurant and orders the waiter. Did you hear about the cannibal student who was suspended from school for buttering up his teacher? Have you heard about the cannibal restaurant where dinner costs an arm and a leg? Two cannibals were eating dinner. One said:"I really hate my sister." The other said:"Well, just eat the noodles." What do cannibals do at a wedding? They toast the bride and groom. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fergus_fiddler Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 In the good old days, at least you knew by looking at an instrument, what it was going to sound like, but now ??????????? I sometimes hear Fiddlers trying very, very hard to make their Fiddles sound like Bagpipes & I ask .......... WHY? Cheers Dick I don't know, Ptarmigan... I agree mostly with you, and I like very much the sound of the old instruments. I supose it begun with people who only knew to play a keyboard but they couldn't or didn't wanted to learn to play more instruments, but, despite this, wanted to sound like them. I don't like the sound of the appeareance of such gadgets, but I don't have bad feelings about them either... One of the few things I learnt is that the only constant thing in life is change. And things do change faster everyday pd: When you say fiddles sounding like bagpipes, what do you mean: a midi fiddle or to use piping rolls and crans on fiddle? Cheers Fer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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