Two fixer-upper Anglos on ebay

[ConcertinaChick]

Does anybody know anything about either of these?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ANTIQUE-ENGLISH-CONC...A1%7C240%3A1318 (guessing it's a Lachenal)

 

 

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Old-Concertina-Accor...A1%7C240%3A1318

 

Thanks!

-ConcertinaChick

[Dave Rogers]

The "SA" on the first one stands for "Salvation Army", so probably made by Jones?

 

http://www.d-and-d.com/contributions/tinas-jones2.html

 

Don't know about the other.

[Takayuki YAGI]

The First one has Lachenal's reedshoe trademark on the hand rest. It's Lachenal.

 

The second one, the seller said that it has 'English Make Trade Mark' with a funny shaped pattern in the middle of it on the hand rest. I think this is probably Lachenal.

 

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Taka

Edited November 15, 2008 by Takayuki YAGI

[Anglo-Irishman]

The First one has Lachenal's reedshoe trademark on the hand rest. It's Lachenal.

 

Taka

 

I agree. Lachenal made a lot of concertinas (including Crane/Triumphs) for the Salvation Army, and I've seen photos of other Lachenal Anglos with the SA logo in the fretwork.

 

Cheers,

John

[tombilly]

I see these went for around £900 & £700 plus respectively. Must admit, I had a think about the broken one, with a view to a little hobby project but once the bids went over a couple of hundred quid, my interest kinda evaporated!!

[Adam Lang]

I see these went for around £900 & £700 plus respectively. Must admit, I had a think about the broken one, with a view to a little hobby project but once the bids went over a couple of hundred quid, my interest kinda evaporated!!

 

Yeah, same with us. Geez, assuming that was a Lachenal, I've seen a similar instrument in good condition not sell at $1500. £900 is just nuts.

[Chris Drinkwater]

Does anybody know anything about either of these?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ANTIQUE-ENGLISH-CONC...A1%7C240%3A1318 (guessing it's a Lachenal)

 

 

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Old-Concertina-Accor...A1%7C240%3A1318

 

Thanks!

-ConcertinaChick

 

Well, the second one, above, has been bought by a forum member who is an amateur restorer called Bill Crossland.

 

Chris

[Bill Crossland]

I'll tell you whether it was worth it next week.......

[tombilly]

Great, we look forward to that out of curiosity!!

[Bill Crossland]

Well - its arrived and there is good news and bad.... The good news is that it's intact, all the reeds present, all cosmetically reparable - indeed someone has already recently replaced the pads with some good quality new ones. Bellows are pretty sound and put back together properly it will be a nice instrument.

 

 

On the down side at some time in its life, someone has decided it should be an English/Duet layout, and each button plays the same note in and out.....naturally some reeds have been imported to make this possible and the layout is a little odd, with appropriate modifications to the woodwork of the reed pans - and the whistle and squeak originally fitted have been taken out (sacrilege!).

 

An interesting problem - some you win, some you don't win quite as much - and those long dark nights to come at least have a purpose now!

 

By the way Chris, I take it that the "amateur" description is used in the sense of "he has a proper job (if only to to fund speculative concertina purchases)" rather than as a comment on the quality of outpourings of the humble concertina repair facilities perched high in the Pennines??

[Bill Crossland]

More pictures

[Theo]

On the down side at some time in its life, someone has decided it should be an English/Duet layout, and each button plays the same note in and out.....naturally some reeds have been imported to make this

 

I did once acquire as a gift a 30 key lachenal anglo which had no reeds in it at all. Shortly after I was a able to buy a 35 key Mccann, which had reed pans for a 40-odd key inside, and a more or less full set of reeds. The bellows on the Mccann were in bits so I didn't feel too bad about cannibalising it to repopulate most of the anglo reedpans. So your reverse engineering should be possible without to many additions.

[Bill Crossland]

Thanks Theo - maybe a few reeds from your Aeola reed pans wouldn't be missed if I'm short of an odd one ?

 

Regards

 

Bill

[tombilly]

Maybe I'm glad so - sounds a bit of hassle!! Do you reckon someone set out to convert it and couldn't finish the job?

[Theo]

Thanks Theo - maybe a few reeds from your Aeola reed pans wouldn't be missed if I'm short of an odd one ?

 

Regards

 

Bill

 

Terribly sorry but the aeola reeds are long scale, so they would be quite impossible to fit to your anglo

[Chris Drinkwater]

By the way Chris, I take it that the "amateur" description is used in the sense of "he has a proper job (if only to to fund speculative concertina purchases)" rather than as a comment on the quality of outpourings of the humble concertina repair facilities perched high in the Pennines??

 

Sorry to hear about the "good and bad" news, Bill. An interesting challenge, no doubt. And, yes, when I described you as an "amateur" restorer, I meant that you are doing it as a 'hobby', rather than as a profession, and that the standard of your repairs and restorations is very good, based on personal experience of having had you restore a couple of concertinas for me.

 

Chris