Concertina And Guitar Duets

[Doug Barr]

Anyone have a source for classical guitar and concertina(anglo) duets...I guess guitar and violin might work...Please let me know Thanks Doug Barr

[Dirge]

A good place to trawl for classical music to pervert for concertina is http://www.mutopiaproject.org/ although whether it will have much guitar accompaniment stuff I don't know.

[m3838]

A good place to trawl for classical music to pervert for concertina is http://www.mutopiaproject.org/ although whether it will have much guitar accompaniment stuff I don't know.

 

http://demure.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=2252

 

The site is in Russian, and dedicated mostly to 7 string guitar.

Here at work I can't download the files, but I'll try at home.

Somebody knowleageable in computers, please tell me what do I have to do to download these files. Do I have to register first with the storage site, they're on?

But if my Windows or Mac will work, I'll download them and offer here.

Seems like a lot, the guy has the whole case full of Russian guitar scripts from the 70s and offers them for free.

[Dirge]

Never mind downloading the files; I don't understand enough to even get started. I was expecting to have to blunder through the titles by guesswork but can't even see where the files are to do that.

 

Any clues, Misha? And style of music is it?

[Anglo-Irishman]

Anyone have a source for classical guitar and concertina(anglo) duets...I guess guitar and violin might work...Please let me know Thanks Doug Barr

 

If you mean "classical guitar" in the sense of "nylon-strung", look no farther than the next folksong you enjoy. The bassist in my group plays a very nice, almost classical, picked nylon guitar, and one of the numbers that always draws attention is "The Wind In the Willows" when we play it as a duet. I just play the melody, but with plenty of expression. I phrase the tune as if I were singing it, which gives each run-through a different feel. A good guitarist can give you a nice intro, bridge and outro - and harmonies that wouldn't be trivial on the Anglo!

 

Cheers,

John

[RatFace]

Only one tune but I arranged a guitar accompaniment to Sueno de Barrilete - see here:

 

http://www.rowlhouse.co.uk/concertina/music/index.html

 

You may also be able to find (e.g. poke in shops/libraries) some guitar duets where one part is (almost) only melody.

[m3838]

Only one tune but I arranged a guitar accompaniment to Sueno de Barrilete - see here:

 

http://www.rowlhouse.co.uk/concertina/music/index.html

 

You may also be able to find (e.g. poke in shops/libraries) some guitar duets where one part is (almost) only melody.

Do you have direct link?

You gave the path to the whole page, and the design prevents me from reading it.

Black background, with red promts is not the best solution for my eyes nowadays.

And I had perfect vision just three years ago. Wow!

To Dirge:

There are many styles of music in that brifcase. Classical, pop, folk songs, Russian Romantic songs (probably borrowed from French), Gipsy.

Romantic songs from 19 century are particularly popular, Gipsy arrangments are hot.

Of course, there is lots of jazz of all kind and Spanish music.

Now there's plenty of rock, but mostly for 6 strings. 7 strings in easier to play fingerpicking, as open strings give you G7, and to play all major chrords you only have to put a barre.

Anyways.

Here are some file addresses one can click on and see, what will happen

http://ifolder.ru/5347454

http://stream.ifolder.ru/5409988

http://ifolder.ru/5431284

http://ifolder.ru/5431805

Well,try these. If you have any luck, teach me.

[Dirge]

No I couldn't make any sense of it apart from opening pages that worried me a bit, as I couldn't tell whether I was signing up for yet more spam....

[RatFace]

http://www.rowlhouse.co.uk/concertina/music/index.html

Do you have direct link?

 

I gave the whole link in case there's something else of interest there, and the name of the piece of music so that one can search for it and find it easily (in far less time than it takes to ask for a direct link...).

Edited June 27, 2008 by RatFace

[m3838]

http://www.rowlhouse.co.uk/concertina/music/index.html

Do you have direct link?

 

I gave the whole link in case there's something else of interest there, and the name of the piece of music so that one can search for it and find it easily (in far less time than it takes to ask for a direct link...).

 

Except that I can't read red and white font on black background. I don't wear glasses yet, and all I see are blurry stripes instead of text. Red on black has stereoscopic effect. Almost as bad as blue on black.

I just gave it a try and enlarged font some 4 times.

I can't find anything with a name "Sueno de Barrilete" and my eyes already are popping out.

Can you please give a direct link?

Thanks.

[RatFace]

I can't find anything with a name "Sueno de Barrilete" and my eyes already are popping out.

 

Press Ctrl-F (probably), type in sueno (and possibly press return, depends on your browser) and you'll find it.

 

Guitar part

 

Original, with the tune

 

Edit: Oh, and if you really have problems with colours then all(?) browsers will allow you to override the colours used for text, links and backgrounds (won't help if the page uses an image for a background of course)

Edited June 28, 2008 by RatFace

[Dirge]

How fast is it supposed to go, Danny?

[RatFace]

How fast is it supposed to go, Danny?

Well, the author of the guitar part has written "crotchet = 60" at the top so who am I to argue with him?!

[m3838]

I can't find anything with a name "Sueno de Barrilete" and my eyes already are popping out.

 

Press Ctrl-F (probably), type in sueno (and possibly press return, depends on your browser) and you'll find it.

 

Guitar part

 

Original, with the tune

 

Edit: Oh, and if you really have problems with colours then all(?) browsers will allow you to override the colours used for text, links and backgrounds (won't help if the page uses an image for a background of course)

 

Thanks.

Using computer, and esp. Internet, is not what I do for living per se.

There are great many tools out there and very little time to sit and learn a few.

I just did control F and I see that blinking search window. Great, will know next time.

But how do I override the colors?

[David Barnert]

Doug-

 

Billy Novick and Guy Van Duser have recorded several alums of pennywhistle & classical guitar playing tradidional fiddle tunes. (They also have recorded more albums of swing music with Billy on clarinet or soprano saxophone instead of whistle).

 

One would think most of what you can play on the pennywhistleyou can also play on anglo. Worth a listen?

[m3838]

Doug-

 

Billy Novick and Guy Van Duser have recorded several alums of pennywhistle & classical guitar playing tradidional fiddle tunes. (They also have recorded more albums of swing music with Billy on clarinet or soprano saxophone instead of whistle).

 

One would think most of what you can play on the pennywhistleyou can also play on anglo. Worth a listen?

 

Any single voice instrument's score can be played on any other single voice instrument.

The trick is to find music with harmony, that is playable on concertina, not only on piano or accordion. So guitar music idea surfaced as a good source.

There are obvious problems with this. Firstly, guitar range goes way down, below concertina range. Secondly guitar's string keeps on sounding with a nice decay, while concertina's button must be pressed all the time, and it may result in ungodly honky bass, overriding the upper part. Thirdly, Guitar string can be strung and fingers used on other strings, and Concertina doesn't allow it.

Having said that, Guitar music is put on one stave, which is convinient for Concertina players, and I have some scores I recieved from my Russian penpal.

The scores are a chance for you to lay your hands on something different, something that most of you have no chance of getting otherways

That pal of mine has tons of music, he is guitar teacher in Moscow, but I can't milk him uncontrollably, however I can share with you what he gave me recently.

I'll do one at a time, if anybody wants it.

I'd be very curious what you do with this music and your concertinas.

[Anglo-Irishman]

Doug-

 

Billy Novick and Guy Van Duser have recorded several alums of pennywhistle & classical guitar playing tradidional fiddle tunes. (They also have recorded more albums of swing music with Billy on clarinet or soprano saxophone instead of whistle).

 

One would think most of what you can play on the pennywhistleyou can also play on anglo. Worth a listen?

 

Any single voice instrument's score can be played on any other single voice instrument.

The trick is to find music with harmony, that is playable on concertina, not only on piano or accordion. So guitar music idea surfaced as a good source.

There are obvious problems with this. Firstly, guitar range goes way down, below concertina range. Secondly guitar's string keeps on sounding with a nice decay, while concertina's button must be pressed all the time, and it may result in ungodly honky bass, overriding the upper part. Thirdly, Guitar string can be strung and fingers used on other strings, and Concertina doesn't allow it.

 

Micha,

As I understood the original question, somebody wants to play pieces on an anglo with a guitar accompaniment. Not concertina accompanied by another concertina from a guitar score. So exsiting guitar accompaniments for other melody instruments would be absolutely right for the guitar part.

 

Having said that, I would agree with you that you can't transcribe music from just any instrument to just any other. You mention the dacay on a guitar note, and of course the piano's sustain pedal is not transferable to any other instrument, except the cymbalom, which has a "negative sustain pedal".

 

My Russian acquaintance plays a lot of keyboard transcriptions on the bayan, bit it's mostly organ, harpsichord, and early píano music that was written for the fortepiano, which has a lot less sustain than the modern piano. With Mozart's contemporaries, the piano music was very "notey" and didn't neeed much sustain; with the Romantics, sustained chords are a major element - and we free-reeders just can't emulate that, as you say.

 

Cheers,

John