What Is This?

[m3838]

to transpose the music instead?

 

If I transpose, low notes run out of range. Tak Bach's composition for Cello or Violin.

They encompass the whole range of instrument, from low G for Violin to above D second octave, where using concertina becomes counterproductive. Moskitos do better job.

Baritones are too slow, too low and tricky on their part. Low notes don't sound good in harmony, for example.

[Stephen Chambers]

to transpose the music instead?

If I transpose, low notes run out of range. Tak Bach's composition for Cello or Violin.

They encompass the whole range of instrument, from low G for Violin to above D second octave, where using concertina becomes counterproductive. Moskitos do better job.

You'd need a bass to play cello music as it was written, but the violin works should be no problem on a good-quality treble. What kind of instrument are you playing at the moment?

 

Baritones are too slow, too low and tricky on their part. Low notes don't sound good in harmony, for example.

I was suggesting you use their upper range, to solve the problem you were describing in your previous posting.

 

Edited to add missing 'of'.

Edited June 21, 2008 by Stephen Chambers

[m3838]

You'd need a bass to play cello music as it was written

The ones I saw were written in G cleff. I think it's the case of playing an octave lower than written.

, but the violin works should be no problem on a good-quality treble. What kind instrument are you playing at the moment?

 

Morse Albion.

I was suggesting you use their upper range, to solve the problem you were describing in your previous posting.

That was the idea, when I got my Jack. But it didn't work really. Only very simple music is contained within one octave.

[Stephen Chambers]

Misha,

 

I think it may be time to invest in that Æola - no excuses (look at the price of a good Bayan!). I can assure you that the top end of mine sounds nothing like mosquitos!

 

Then transpose those accordion pieces that are giving you so much grief, or play works for violin, flute, or clarinet that fit the instrument. For that matter, there are plenty of old arrangements, and even compositions, especially for English concertina.

[david_boveri]

A "standard" piano, just like a "standard" Enlish treble are in the key of Cmaj/Amin.

Only if you choose to play them in that key...

 

That seems a very limiting way of thinking of two fully-chromatic instruments. Yes, that is what the "core" of both of them (the "white notes" on a piano, or a "student" English concertina) is usually in, but the point is that, unlike Anglos, English concertinas are not restricted to playing in a limited range of keys and (with the exception of a handful of transposing instruments made for bands) don't need to come in different keys like Anglos. And that, surely, is the point of Tim's question?

 

I certainly don't think of my Aeola as being "in C" (in fact I don't think I play a single tune in C on it ), do you think of your piano that way?

 

Edited to add "need to"

 

i think of the piano as if it is in c. it is.

[david_boveri]

Can some one please tell me what type of concertina is being played on this site. It is english or anlgo? I think it is english but I can't quite see. And what key is the instrument. It sure has a pretty sound! Thanks, Tim

 

 

nice vid! thank you for sharing.

[Stephen Chambers]

A "standard" piano, just like a "standard" Enlish treble are in the key of Cmaj/Amin.

Only if you choose to play them in that key...

... I certainly don't think of my Aeola as being "in C" (in fact I don't think I play a single tune in C on it ), do you think of your piano that way?

i think of the piano as if it is in c. it is.

 

 

David,

 

Only if you allow it to be, you've got to tame it and teach it "new tricks"!

 

It isn't the piano that's "in C"; only your perception of it. I never had this problem with EC as I came to it with the approach "this is a fully chromatic instrument, it will play in the keys that I want it to" - and it is, and it does!

[m3838]

Misha,

 

I think it may be time to invest in that Æola - no excuses (look at the price of a good Bayan!). I can assure you that the top end of mine sounds nothing like mosquitos!

 

Then transpose those accordion pieces that are giving you so much grief, or play works for violin, flute, or clarinet that fit the instrument. For that matter, there are plenty of old arrangements, and even compositions, especially for English concertina.

 

You are right. I'ts the matter of time and if. In time I'll see if I keep my current job (and it's going stormy). If I do, my next one is going to be that Aeola or the Tenor. But the problem to buy "sound unheard" is a big one. The more expencive the instrument, the more care should be taken to inspecting it, and the postage fees are only going to increase. Nothing new. I wish I played a guitar. (or that piano in C )

[david_boveri]

A "standard" piano, just like a "standard" Enlish treble are in the key of Cmaj/Amin.

Only if you choose to play them in that key...

... I certainly don't think of my Aeola as being "in C" (in fact I don't think I play a single tune in C on it ), do you think of your piano that way?

i think of the piano as if it is in c. it is.

 

 

David,

 

Only if you allow it to be, you've got to tame it and teach it "new tricks"!

 

It isn't the piano that's "in C"; only your perception of it. I never had this problem with EC as I came to it with the approach "this is a fully chromatic instrument, it will play in the keys that I want it to" - and it is, and it does!

 

i think of it as being in c just as the silver flute is in c. to me (and historically) the flute is very obviously a D instrument. in 400 years, the D scale has not changed fingering (not including venting), except for one note: the F#. D is still fingered the same on a modern flute as when flutes had no notes below D.

 

the piano will play in any key, just as the flute will. i think that the silver flute plays easier in D than in C. i guess C is easiest on the piano, but it wasnt always for me. it used to be that i could only play and think of the piano in D, to the point where i could not think of chord progressions in C.

[groeswenphil]

Pretty sure it's an English.....and I'm pretty sure that Tony Rose used to play and sing it.

 

I'm also pretty sure I know where they are.

Anybody else ever visited Juliette's Garden, St Mary's, Isles of Scilly?

 

Phil