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Another Jeffries has appeared on eBay. Frustratingly the seller does not know what key it is, or what the reeds are like. I am dubious about asking someone (who almost certainly doesn't know what they're doing) to remove the ends and reed pan anyway.

 

Do you think this is legit. and any clues about what key it might be in?

 

Link is here:

Jeffries anglo on eBay

 

Cheers,

Steve

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Another Jeffries has appeared on eBay. Frustratingly the seller does not know what key it is, or what the reeds are like. I am dubious about asking someone (who almost certainly doesn't know what they're doing) to remove the ends and reed pan anyway.

 

Do you think this is legit. and any clues about what key it might be in?

 

Link is here:

Jeffries anglo on eBay

 

Cheers,

Steve

 

It seems legit to me, Steve, though the seller clearly knows nothing about concertinas. Hopefully, it is a 38 key c/g anglo and as for bidding on it, I wouldn't bother unless you have 5 grand to spare!

 

Chris

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Do you think this is legit. and any clues about what key it might be in?

 

Link is here:

Jeffries anglo on eBay

Hi Steve,

 

Looks like this has the potential to be a good instrument. As Stephen says; 35 keys (without the weedy sounding partial fourth row). Obviously needs a fair amount of money spent on it (bellows etc.), but I just hope that it goes to someone who appreciates it in the keys in which it is currently "tuned", rather than having it re-tuned to something "more commercial".

 

Regards,

Peter.

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I called the seller today and got him to play a couple of notes from the left hand side middle and bottom rows through the telephone. The instrument is clearly passing air through a few reeds, but I think it's a Bb/F in something very close to modern pitch.

 

From his description of the bellows, they have papers on but they're very tarnished and the existing repairs could indicate that a complete new set is required as well as what's needed on the action and the reeds.

 

The seller clearly isn't musical, but had a good try to be helpful and didn't want to risk damage by opening it up and taking a look at the reeds - so there could be all sorts in there

 

Not conclusive, but I hope that's helpful

 

Alex

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I called the seller today and got him to play a couple of notes from the left hand side middle and bottom rows through the telephone. The instrument is clearly passing air through a few reeds, but I think it's a Bb/F in something very close to modern pitch.

 

From his description of the bellows, they have papers on but they're very tarnished and the existing repairs could indicate that a complete new set is required as well as what's needed on the action and the reeds.

 

The seller clearly isn't musical, but had a good try to be helpful and didn't want to risk damage by opening it up and taking a look at the reeds - so there could be all sorts in there

 

Not conclusive, but I hope that's helpful

 

Alex

Many thanks, Alex.

That settles it then, as far as I'm concerned. I'm not in the running for a Bb/F instrument.

I shall keep watching it though, just to see how much it sells for. :huh:

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I called the seller today and got him to play a couple of notes from the left hand side middle and bottom rows through the telephone. The instrument is clearly passing air through a few reeds, but I think it's a Bb/F in something very close to modern pitch.

 

From his description of the bellows, they have papers on but they're very tarnished and the existing repairs could indicate that a complete new set is required as well as what's needed on the action and the reeds.

 

The seller clearly isn't musical, but had a good try to be helpful and didn't want to risk damage by opening it up and taking a look at the reeds - so there could be all sorts in there

 

Not conclusive, but I hope that's helpful

 

Alex

I am probably completely wrong but if the instrument is in old concert pitch and sounds near to a BpF then it is a CG

but requiring a complete re tune.

I await my slap on the wrist.

Al

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Alan

 

I couldn't get my tuner on it as there were other notes sounding in the background, but it was Bb concert against my recorder.

 

If it was old pitch - A=454, then it would be sharper than concert - A=440, so C (old) would sound like C sharp (concert) and Bb (old) would sound like B (concert) - wouldn't it?

 

So if it was old pitch and sounded like Bb (concert), could it be in A - I'd have thought that was unlikely

 

But I agree, given that it was allegedly found in the corner of a loft, then tuned to modern pitch would also be unlikely; that's why I said I couldn't be conclusive

 

Alex

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Alan

 

I couldn't get my tuner on it as there were other notes sounding in the background, but it was Bb concert against my recorder.

 

If it was old pitch - A=454, then it would be sharper than concert - A=440, so C (old) would sound like C sharp (concert) and Bb (old) would sound like B (concert) - wouldn't it?

 

So if it was old pitch and sounded like Bb (concert), could it be in A - I'd have thought that was unlikely

 

But I agree, given that it was allegedly found in the corner of a loft, then tuned to modern pitch would also be unlikely; that's why I said I couldn't be conclusive

 

Alex

Could easily be an A/E lovely sounding box.If it was in the loft it may be slightly out of tune,so it could still be a CG.

I must admit reading all the info on this concertina and the cooperation of the seller towards Alex. It sounds less of a risk than some I have read about.

The facts are that it would need a complete re tune,possibly new bellows.I like the diameter of the buttons and the look of the instrument.

I shall be interested in the final price and enjoy the race, but my money stays in my pocket.

Al

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Hopefully, it is a 38 key c/g anglo ...

Unusually (though not uniquely - I've had one before) it's only a 35-key instrument, though it could be in just about any key... :unsure:

 

 

Thanks for putting me right Stephen. 17 + 18 = ? I obviously can't add up. I blame it on the time; 01:49 AM. Shoulda been in bed catching up on my beauty sleep. ;)

 

Chris

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The question is.... how much restoration does it need to be a player?

And is it definitely in Bb/F? It seems like a lot for a Bb/F -- what do the

rest of us think about the price. Given that even the rain is falling up

these days.

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The last Jeffries on eBay went for 5200 pounds or thereabouts.............It was an unrestored Bb/F and I thought it was an aberration in price .I think this price is reasonable for what will probably be a wonderful instrument.

Robin

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