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Jeffries Scam?


Paul Read

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Hard to say on this one. On the positive side, the seller has a good feedback history and this isn't a private auction. The fact that it's just a 3-day auction is a little odd, though. I wonder if there's someone on c.net who's close enough to check it out -- it's the wrong part of California for me.

 

eBay link.
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eBay link.

I've tried to enlarge the image, but, to me, this appears to be a Jeffries Bros. rather than C.Jeffries. Praed Street address and raised ends etc., I would have thought c1920. It looks excellent, but the few raised ends Jeffries which I've seen have all been heavy instruments (robust, though!).

 

Don't know about the auction.

 

Regards,

Peter.

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On the positive side, the seller has a good feedback history and this isn't a private auction.

 

This wouldn't matter if the site had been hijacked from another seller.

The feedback wouldn't apply to the present seller if this was a scam,

but rather to the person whose site was hijacked.

 

The fact that it's just a 3-day auction is a little odd, though.

 

Exactement...!

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This is a scam

The instrument in the photo is identical to one bought from Australia on eBay in January 2006 by a regular subscriber to this board, which I picked up from the seller on his behalf. I won't give his name here, but I've pm-ed him. I'm sure he wouldn't be selling it....and anyway, the case is in my workshop here (on the pile to go to the tip when I get a round tuit!)

Original listing here

 

MC

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Now the listing is gone. I imagine that you're right that this was a hijacked seller ID.

 

On the positive side, the seller has a good feedback history and this isn't a private auction.

This wouldn't matter if the site had been hijacked from another seller.

The feedback wouldn't apply to the present seller if this was a scam,

but rather to the person whose site was hijacked.

 

The fact that it's just a 3-day auction is a little odd, though.

 

Exactement...!

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I am thinking there is definitely room for a new field of employment.

 

I would call it Editorial Consultant for EBay Scammer/Hooligans.

 

The responsibilities would include editing the text in the e bay ads for: Syntax, Grammar and Stupid.

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I asked some specific questions on the instrument last night, as serial #, how did it come into his possession and into california, etc. Today i received an alert from ebay in that i might be subject to a phishing scam... looks like you people already figured out that it was too good to be true.

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As Malcolm has said, the instrument isn't for sale and it is a scam. Ebay seem to be recognising it now - although maybe not as quickly as we'd all hope.

 

It's a Jeffries Bros in Ab/Eb and it plays quite well although the bellows are very stiff. Steve Dickinson thought they might be Crabb but the pattern is very similar to a C Jeffries raised ended Praed St instrument I've seen recently. Of course it could be that Crabb was still supplying components to Jeffries well into the 20th century?

 

It's a couple of ounces heavier than a 30 key G/D and an ounce or so heavier than a 38 key C/G. It hadn't been played since 1957 and was probably from the same Liverpool concertina band as the ex Kilroy box which is on Chris Timson's site, leaving for Australia in around 1924

 

If it comes round again, at least you guys know more than the seller now!

 

Alex

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