Chris Timson Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 Here. If I didn't already have a lovely G/D I would have been tempted to bid for this. I once owned a Dickinson C/G and it was a gorgeous box to play. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Hersh Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 I can think of a couple of possibilities. The biggest demand for high-end concertinas seems to be from Irish-style Anglo players, where C/G rather than G/D is the standard instrument. And I don't think that many players have had a chance to try out or even hear a Dickinson concertina. I've never seen one or heard one (or even, so far as I know, heard a recording of one) myself. Here. If I didn't already have a lovely G/D I would have been tempted to bid for this. I once owned a Dickinson C/G and it was a gorgeous box to play. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterT Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 I've never seen one or heard one (or even, so far as I know, heard a recording of one) myself. Well, I previously owned the C/G to which Chris refers. Whilst a bit quiet, it had a lovely, sweet, tone. Current owner seems to like it, too! Regards, Peter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Timson Posted April 19, 2008 Author Share Posted April 19, 2008 The biggest demand for high-end concertinas seems to be from Irish-style Anglo players, where C/G rather than G/D is the standard instrument. Depends which country you're in, mate! Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Hersh Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 Chris-- I think that you know that I'm talking about the worldwide market as a whole. It's my impression that the climbing prices of 30-button C/G Jeffries and Linotas are driven by Irish-style players, in Ireland and possibly elsewhere. I would bet that's where most of Suttner's production, for example, is going too. (Though I'm ready to be proved wrong if someone's got better info than me about this.) Daniel The biggest demand for high-end concertinas seems to be from Irish-style Anglo players, where C/G rather than G/D is the standard instrument.Depends which country you're in, mate! Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Worrall Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 (edited) Here. If I didn't already have a lovely G/D I would have been tempted to bid for this. I once owned a Dickinson C/G and it was a gorgeous box to play. Chris Chris, I own a Dickinson G/D....it is a real jewel, and my only GD....but I wouldn't be too tempted by the one on eBay, at least without hearing it in person. The fretwork openings appear small and too closed on that one; not only does it look a bit strange, but I'd be tempted to think (without knowing, of course) that it would sound like a frog in a well. Doubtful that SD would make a real clunker, of course, but still I would think it too risky to buy from afar. Most of us can afford only one such instrument, and would prefer to wait for a seemingly more perfect one when that kind of money is on the line. I agree about the Irish pushing price ceilings for good CGs, but a good GD is worth a good price too, to the right person. At least, that is what I keep telling myself! Cheers, Dan Edited April 20, 2008 by Dan Worrall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Timson Posted April 20, 2008 Author Share Posted April 20, 2008 (edited) I think that you know that I'm talking about the worldwide market as a whole. OK, to qualify that a bit. Worldwide there are fewer players of the G/D as compared with the C/G, but then there are far more C/Gs than G/Ds, most of which after all are converted Ab/Eb boxes. The overall effect is that supply v. demand makes good G/Ds as unobtainable, relatively speaking, as good C/Gs, so there is not much difference in the price overall, especially in England. That's not the reason. (Anyway, you can rely on Chris Algar to know the market price of a concertina; I'd love it if I could buy a concertina of this quality for just a couple of k - in my dreams it'll have to stay). Dan, I'm with you that I would never pay thousands for a concertina unseen and unplayed, including this one. But that doesn't seem to stop most ebay punters, does it? Chris Edited to add PS: Steve makes concertinas in two grades, standard 6-sided and best 8-sided. There are signs that this is one of the very few 6-sided best quality ones he made (my C/G was another such). Note the raised ends and the fact that the ends plates are recessed at the edges, both signs of a best quality Dickinson. I'd still want to try it before I bought it, but I've no doubt it is a lovely instrument. Edited April 20, 2008 by Chris Timson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Chambers Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 Steve makes concertinas in two grades, standard 6-sided and best 8-sided. There are signs that this is one of the very few 6-sided best quality ones he made (my C/G was another such). Note the raised ends and the fact that the ends plates are recessed at the edges, both signs of a best quality Dickinson. I'd still want to try it before I bought it, but I've no doubt it is a lovely instrument. Chris, Anything Steve makes is indeed a lovely instrument, but he did formerly build some less-expensive models and both the mahogany woodwork and simple "slash and dot" design in the ends suggest that this was a cheaper model than his "best hexagonal". Maybe somebody in the UK could ask him about # 60025? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimLucas Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 Steve makes concertinas in two grades, standard 6-sided and best 8-sided. There are signs that this is one of the very few 6-sided best quality ones he made (my C/G was another such). Note the raised ends and the fact that the ends plates are recessed at the edges, both signs of a best quality Dickinson. I'd still want to try it before I bought it, but I've no doubt it is a lovely instrument. Anything Steve makes is indeed a lovely instrument, but he did formerly build some less-expensive models and both the mahogany woodwork and simple "slash and dot" design in the ends suggest that this was a cheaper model than his "best hexagonal". Maybe somebody in the UK could ask him about # 60025? I can think of one thing that might give me pause, but since no one else seems to have remarked it, I don't think it affected the auction: It's my understanding that Steve started his own serial numbers at 60001. That would make this the 25th instrument he ever made for sale. When did he start production? I remember him telling me, back in the early 1970's, that he was making good concertinas, but that he wouldn't yet (at that time) claim he was making them as good as Wheatstone's best. I'm sure he's learned some "tricks" since then. Still, even several steps below the very best from Wheatstone's glory days would be a very fine instrument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterT Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 When did he start production? I remember him telling me, back in the early 1970's, that he was making good concertinas, but that he wouldn't yet (at that time) claim he was making them as good as Wheatstone's best. I'm sure he's learned some "tricks" since then. Still, even several steps below the very best from Wheatstone's glory days would be a very fine instrument. Jim, No. 60041 (to which Chris and I both refer) was made c1982, so No. 60025 was probably very late 1970's. Regards, Peter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Prebble Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 No. 60041 (to which Chris and I both refer) was made c1982, so No. 60025 was probably very late 1970's. Regards, Peter. Hmmmm Wonder what number he is up to now ..... Anyone know ?? Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimLucas Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 When did he start production? I remember him telling me, back in the early 1970's, that he was making good concertinas, but that he wouldn't yet (at that time) claim he was making them as good as Wheatstone's best. I'm sure he's learned some "tricks" since then. Still, even several steps below the very best from Wheatstone's glory days would be a very fine instrument.No. 60041 (to which Chris and I both refer) was made c1982, so No. 60025 was probably very late 1970's. Hmm. Sounds as if his annual production back then was even lower than I thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wild Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 No. 60041 (to which Chris and I both refer) was made c1982, so No. 60025 was probably very late 1970's. Regards, Peter. Hmmmm Wonder what number he is up to now ..... Anyone know ?? Dave I have a Wheatstone Hayden duet number 60095 purchased as new in 1989. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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