scott fineran Posted March 4, 2008 Posted March 4, 2008 Well guys, I am considering selling my jeffries concertina to finance the purchace of a timber ended concertina. I love the sound, feel and look of timber instruments and I am considering selling my Jeffreis to finance a change. I have had it about 5 years and I have had work done by Richard Evans and more recently Malcolm Clapp who rebuilt the action etc. It is in very good condition and the only thing it really needs to get it into top condition would be a new set of bellows. The bellows on it at present are playable - I use it each week at a local session - but they do have a few slight leeks. They are not the original bellows but have been on it for a long time. The gold tool work looks like it was done by hand. It has been the envy to many players here in Aus. I put it to you the good people of concer-net, what would I expect to get if I sold her so i can decide if I will go ahead with the change. I have tried to attach a photo that I just took for you to have abit of a look. Scott
KerryFrank Posted March 4, 2008 Posted March 4, 2008 Well guys, I am considering selling my jeffries concertina to finance the purchace of a timber ended concertina. I love the sound, feel and look of timber instruments and I am considering selling my Jeffreis to finance a change. I have had it about 5 years and I have had work done by Richard Evans and more recently Malcolm Clapp who rebuilt the action etc. It is in very good condition and the only thing it really needs to get it into top condition would be a new set of bellows. The bellows on it at present are playable - I use it each week at a local session - but they do have a few slight leeks. They are not the original bellows but have been on it for a long time. The gold tool work looks like it was done by hand. It has been the envy to many players here in Aus. I put it to you the good people of concer-net, what would I expect to get if I sold her so i can decide if I will go ahead with the change. I have tried to attach a photo that I just took for you to have abit of a look. Scott Scott, What are you asking for the Jeffries? And could you provide more pics? Such as the left-hand side end and some pics of the bellows. Cordially, Nam
scott fineran Posted March 5, 2008 Author Posted March 5, 2008 Well guys, I am considering selling my jeffries concertina to finance the purchace of a timber ended concertina. I love the sound, feel and look of timber instruments and I am considering selling my Jeffreis to finance a change. I have had it about 5 years and I have had work done by Richard Evans and more recently Malcolm Clapp who rebuilt the action etc. It is in very good condition and the only thing it really needs to get it into top condition would be a new set of bellows. The bellows on it at present are playable - I use it each week at a local session - but they do have a few slight leeks. They are not the original bellows but have been on it for a long time. The gold tool work looks like it was done by hand. It has been the envy to many players here in Aus. I put it to you the good people of concer-net, what would I expect to get if I sold her so i can decide if I will go ahead with the change. I have tried to attach a photo that I just took for you to have abit of a look. Scott Scott, What are you asking for the Jeffries? And could you provide more pics? Such as the left-hand side end and some pics of the bellows. Cordially, Nam I was trying to get an idea of what people may be prepared to pay for it. I have been in contact with a concer builder and I have a 6 month wait if I decide to go ahead so I am in no dire hurry to part with it. I was trying to get an idea of what i would be likely to get for it if I do sell so I know where I am up to. I have tried attaching a couple of other photos. I am waiting on Richard Evans over here to build me a new set of bellows. I may or may not go ahead with that depending on what I do. They would be plain black bellows as he does not have the tool to do the gold tooling. As I have said they do work OK. they could be better but it a very playable instrument and is actually very noce to play. I guess if I really want to get a fair price I could go down the ebay path when if I decide to sell. Scott
scott fineran Posted March 5, 2008 Author Posted March 5, 2008 Here is a pic of the bellows. Couldn't fit it on one reply. Scott
scott fineran Posted March 5, 2008 Author Posted March 5, 2008 Sorry the file would not upload seems they are too big. E-mail me if you want any more. Scott
Chris Timson Posted March 5, 2008 Posted March 5, 2008 Just a thought. If want to sweeten the tone you could easily add leather baffles. Chris
scott fineran Posted March 6, 2008 Author Posted March 6, 2008 I have basically made the decision that I will sell this concertina in about six months. I may get the bellows on the Jeffries replaced in the mean time. Any thoughts on the gold tooling. It is easy to get a new set of bellows here in Aus. but hard to get the gold tooling replaced. Do people out there think that it is important to have the gold tooling on the Jeffries? Scott
Chris Timson Posted March 6, 2008 Posted March 6, 2008 Functionally, of course, it is of no significance at all, and I suspect its absence would have no impact on the price. But personally I would much prefer gold tooling, it just wouldn't seem right without. And please make sure the new bellows has Jeffries papers! Chris
scott fineran Posted March 8, 2008 Author Posted March 8, 2008 After a bit of searching round I am going to get David Lessing to do some gold tooling with his gear on some leather straps or ends and Richard Evans can use over here to build a custom set of bellows for it. I am also getting a new set of papers for it so I should come up looking original and very nice. I have seen another Jeffries here that Richard replaced the bellows on and it looked and performed great.
Chris Timson Posted March 8, 2008 Posted March 8, 2008 Great! I admire the position you are taking on this. I always think we are not so much owners of these things as custodians, since instruments like these will likely far outlast us. Cheers, Chris
scott fineran Posted March 14, 2008 Author Posted March 14, 2008 I received the gold tooling strips and a few other bits from David Leese today. Great service. Only one week from the UK to Aus. They look pretty good too. Now to get it down to Richard to build me some new bellows. Scott
s2maur Posted March 23, 2008 Posted March 23, 2008 I received the gold tooling strips and a few other bits from David Leese today. Great service. Only one week from the UK to Aus. They look pretty good too. Now to get it down to Richard to build me some new bellows. Scott Scott, I too admire the position you are taking as custodian for this instrument. If I may, I would like to know for sure if the existing bellows are eight fold as it seems to appear in the photos? Also, are you going to go with six, seven or eight folds for the replacement bellows? Just a few more questions. Where did the instrument come from, what type of music was played on it and most importantly, is the tuning to A 440 pitch,how much tuning has been done on the reeds and by whom? Answers to these questions would be very helpful to anyone interested in buying this Jeffries.http://www.concertina.net/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif
Chris Drinkwater Posted March 23, 2008 Posted March 23, 2008 I always think we are not so much owners of these things as custodians, since instruments like these will likely far outlast us. Quite likely, as we seem to take better care of our instruments than we do of ourselves! Now, where did I put the muesli and my Converse trainers? Chris
Chris Timson Posted March 23, 2008 Posted March 23, 2008 And there was me thinking of taking one end off my Jeffries and fitting a handle on the side so that it would make a nice folding beer mug. You think I shouldn't? Chris
Chris Drinkwater Posted March 23, 2008 Posted March 23, 2008 And there was me thinking of taking one end off my Jeffries and fitting a handle on the side so that it would make a nice folding beer mug. You think I shouldn't? Chris Well, given that when I have seen you play your Jeffries, Chris, you seem to only play one end of it at a time, your idea of taking the other end off, fitting a handle and converting it into a folding beer mug, may just work. Except that you would probably spill the contents all over your lap come the next tune! Cheers! Chris
Paul Read Posted March 23, 2008 Posted March 23, 2008 And there was me thinking of taking one end off my Jeffries and fitting a handle on the side so that it would make a nice folding beer mug. You think I shouldn't? Chris Well, given that when I have seen you play your Jeffries, Chris, you seem to only play one end of it at a time, your idea of taking the other end off, fitting a handle and converting it into a folding beer mug, may just work. Except that you would probably spill the contents all over your lap come the next tune! Cheers! Chris Could you not just get some autographs on the bellows?
scott fineran Posted March 25, 2008 Author Posted March 25, 2008 I received the gold tooling strips and a few other bits from David Leese today. Great service. Only one week from the UK to Aus. They look pretty good too. Now to get it down to Richard to build me some new bellows. Scott Scott, I too admire the position you are taking as custodian for this instrument. If I may, I would like to know for sure if the existing bellows are eight fold as it seems to appear in the photos? Also, are you going to go with six, seven or eight folds for the replacement bellows? Just a few more questions. Where did the instrument come from, what type of music was played on it and most importantly, is the tuning to A 440 pitch,how much tuning has been done on the reeds and by whom? Answers to these questions would be very helpful to anyone interested in buying this Jeffries.http://www.concertina.net/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif I bought the instrument here in Australia from the local trading post. Just lucky at the time. I know that it was owned by another player prior to her here in Canberra district for some time priot to that. I have had it about 6-7 years and I know the lady I bought it from owned it for a similar period. It is in A440. I had it retuned about 3-4 years ago by Malcolm Clapp here in Australia. He is a very fine repairer and he is one of only two people here in Australia doing repairs that I would trust with it. The other is Richard Evans and there is a sticker inside it from when he tuned it up back in the mis eighties. Prior to that I have no records but it is in very nice condition. I know that the guy from Canberra is a fine player of Irish music but he apparently decided to go down the melodeon path. The lady prior to me played traditional Australian tunes and some Irish stuff i believe. I play a little irish and traditional Australian music. A lot of what I play are songs and slower tunes and I am looking for a little different sound than the loud strong tone of the Jeffries. I like the more mellow sound of the timber ended instruments. The existing bellows are 7 fold and I was intending to go with the same. I think that they seem to be ample for most sytles of music and the norm these days. I have to send it down to Richard with the gold tooling etc to have the bellows replaced. I am not sure how long until Richard can do this. He still had to order in some more leather when I last spoke to him. Scott
Daniel Hersh Posted March 27, 2008 Posted March 27, 2008 Well, here is a 38-button Jeffries discussed in another thread that just sold for $10,100 US on eBay. That one was apparently in Bb/F old pitch, so yours may be worth more as a modern pitch C/G. Of course, each eBay sale is an individual event, so your experience may be different when you sell. I was trying to get an idea of what people may be prepared to pay for it. I have been in contact with a concer builder and I have a 6 month wait if I decide to go ahead so I am in no dire hurry to part with it. I was trying to get an idea of what i would be likely to get for it if I do sell so I know where I am up to. I have tried attaching a couple of other photos. I am waiting on Richard Evans over here to build me a new set of bellows. I may or may not go ahead with that depending on what I do. They would be plain black bellows as he does not have the tool to do the gold tooling. As I have said they do work OK. they could be better but it a very playable instrument and is actually very noce to play. I guess if I really want to get a fair price I could go down the ebay path when if I decide to sell. Scott
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