Traditional Irish Music Cd Collection

[chrisstevens]

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Edited December 24, 2007 by chrisstevens

[David Levine]

It's a very fair price.

But wouldn't it be worth $150 to you to keep these?

In the event that your computer crashed and you lost the music from your computer or your Ipod,

you'd probably wish you had them back. You couldn't replace them at this price.

Unless you have more backup, but even then....

Edited December 23, 2007 by cocusflute

[Gan Ainm]

Just in case you hadn't though of it, I expect that the legal right to store CD tracks on an iPod expires when you sell the CD.

[Leo]

Just in case you hadn't though of it, I expect that the legal right to store CD tracks on an iPod expires when you sell the CD.

Hi Gan

 

That may or may not be correct, and may be more country specific, than worldwide. In the US there is a difference between "Personal Use", and "Distribution". "Private", and "Commercial".

 

Note what Australia passed last year:

http://www.theage.com.au/news/National/New...5080938356.html

 

These change daily, so yesterdays ban may not apply tomorrow.

 

I don't believe there is a restriction anywhere in the US, if the original tapes/cds/dvds, are sold. I think UK is more restrictive in their interpretations.

 

Thanks

Leo

[chrisstevens]

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Edited December 24, 2007 by chrisstevens

[Gan Ainm]

I don't believe there is a restriction anywhere in the US, if the original tapes/cds/dvds, are sold...

When you buy a typical music CD, what you buy is the right to use the copyright content, i.e. to play the music. When you sell the CD, you sell on that right. If you sell a CD which has copyright content, but keep a copy of the music on an iPod/PC/etc., then what you have is a pirate copy of the CD. To protect the musicians who create the music, this is against the law in all WIPO member countries, i.e. virtually all countries worldwide.

 

What varies from country to country is the risk of getting caught, the penalties, and the rules regarding where you can store copies of CDs which you do own. For example the link to the Australian example says "Major changes under the new laws make it legal for people to transfer their CD collections to computers or iPods". In this case "their CD collections" means CDs which they own. Until recently, it was against the law in most countries to make any copies of copyright material. Changes have now been introduced in many countries to allow individuals to copy CDs which they own onto their iPod/PC/etc.

 

I am a relatively new member of this forum. My reply to the initial post was intended as a friendly comment to the seller, just in case he unwittingly disposed of his precious CD collection without realising the implications. That was the sole purpose of the reply, if it has been interpreted otherwise, apologies.

[Aogan]

Gan Ainm has a point in fairness. Also, from the artist's point of view, everyone you sell your second hand cd to, is a potential lost sale, and a transaction for which the recording artist gets nothing.

 

Then again, if the purchaser likes the album, maybe he or she will then pay in to attend a concert of that artist when next he or she plays in their area. -Which is sort of the direction the music industry is taking now - steering away from cd sales.

 

Pity it's so damned expensive to record, manufacture and market a high quality album these days. -Two of the albums in the original list were mine and they're gone now, so I guess I'm already down 30 quid in this thread

 

Well, what can I say. If you like it, tell a friend, and if you get a chance to see us in concert, bring ten more

 

 

@chrisstevens - get me a gig in Maine and all is forgiven

Edited December 24, 2007 by Aogan

[chrisstevens]

Haven't shipped any of the disks yet, so I've decided not to sell. I do understand the implications, copyright infringement, etc., and as an employee in the music industry (www.onelongfellowsquare.com) and also a musician I should be setting an example. Sometimes, however, it's hard for me to let albums collect dust when I know someone else could be listening to them and taking up interest in an Artist they might not have otherwise discovered. "Spreading the good word" as they say, and albums are a valuable promotional tool. Nonetheless, the first argument is the more important one, and this has gotten embarassing. I'll keep the disks for that reason.

 

Now Aogan, about that gig.....

 

 

Happy Holidays everyone!

Edited December 24, 2007 by chrisstevens

[Aogan]

Woah.

 

Sorry lads, I didn't mean to tread on any virtual forum toes. I'm not annoyed or pi$$ed off or anything like that, it's just a fact of the digital / ipod / mp3 age, in the grand scheme of things where trad albums rarely sell more that a couple of thousand copies anyway, it's of negligible importance. If anything, what's most amazing is that someone on the other side of the world, in Maine (of which I've only heard tell in "ayuh" Stephen King books), came across, and purchased, an album of mine and, even better, managed to sell it on .

 

So, no admonishment was intended. I live in the real world and I know that people share and copy cd's and that's just the way it is. - "The only thing worse than being talked about....." eh?