JimLucas Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 Don't even think about bidding onthis Edeophone. The pictures and the description have been ripped off from my original listing in September of this year. The concertina is currently in Australia, with a very happy new owner. ...having emailed the seller earlier he has sent me some very nice pictures of the the reed pans etc.... The serial number from the outside label reads 48877 with this number being repeated on the inside. But how did the scammer get pictures of the reed pan? Good point. Dave R. or Andie, is #48877 indeed the serial number of the original instrument? If so, did your (Dave's) original eBay listing include those additional photos? Or did you email them to individuals who asked for more pics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveP Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 Bidding has gone back down to £255 - anyone know why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david robertson Posted November 28, 2007 Author Share Posted November 28, 2007 [quote But how did the scammer get pictures of the reed pan? I'd love to read what the scammer's responses have been. They were in my original listing - the scammer didn't use them all. Too expensive for him, perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david robertson Posted November 28, 2007 Author Share Posted November 28, 2007 Don't even think about bidding onthis Edeophone. The pictures and the description have been ripped off from my original listing in September of this year. The concertina is currently in Australia, with a very happy new owner. ...having emailed the seller earlier he has sent me some very nice pictures of the the reed pans etc.... The serial number from the outside label reads 48877 with this number being repeated on the inside. But how did the scammer get pictures of the reed pan? Good point. Dave R. or Andie, is #48877 indeed the serial number of the original instrument? If so, did your (Dave's) original eBay listing include those additional photos? Or did you email them to individuals who asked for more pics? The pictures were in the original listing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david robertson Posted November 28, 2007 Author Share Posted November 28, 2007 Bidding has gone back down to £255 - anyone know why? Can't explain it, but I have just complained once again to eBay. If they have unilaterally removed the spoof bid(s), all they have achieved is to give the scammer a much better opportunity to offer a quick "sale" for cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david robertson Posted November 28, 2007 Author Share Posted November 28, 2007 Bidding has gone back down to £255 - anyone know why? Can't explain it, but I have just complained once again to eBay. If they have unilaterally removed the spoof bid(s), all they have achieved is to give the scammer a much better opportunity to offer a quick "sale" for cash. I just noticed that the copy of my complaint sent to my own address came from "eBay Member: bramblejam" rather than from the eBay Safety Centre. Does this mean that someone is intercepting complaints, or am I just being paranoid? I forwarded it to the spoof@ebay address to check it out. Watch this space! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 Hi All this reinforces my feelings that I wouldn't touch ebay with a barge pole-let alone money chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Levine Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 Reason why the bidding dropped down: the following message ended up in my bulk mail and I didn't see it till just now. I will let somebody else bid to spoil his auction, having done my part for truth and justice. If we all bid lots and lots he'd have a hard time canceling us all. sir, are you real!?!!! please reply or i will cancel your bid!!! Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 David's original listing:http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...em=280150193536 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimLucas Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 Reason why the bidding dropped down: the following message ended up in my bulk mail and I didn't see it till just now. I will let somebody else bid to spoil his auction, having done my part for truth and justice. If we all bid lots and lots he'd have a hard time canceling us all.sir, are you real!?!!! please reply or i will cancel your bid!!! Greg If you haven't already, maybe you should reply with something like: "You doubt me? I'm sure, sir, that I'm just as real as you." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Drinkwater Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 I would imagine your bid was outdone by cocusflute so I wouldn't worry too much unless you bid 8 grand and were outbid ... Assuming that Cocusflute is the current high bidder at £4100, the distressing thing from my point of view is that someone out there was prepared to bid £4000. Given that I sold it for £1500, I'm starting to feel a little hard done by! Of course, it may just be that someone else from this fine community has also put on a silly bid. Yes, that was me. I bid £4000. My bid has now been cancelled by the seller because I'd previously sent him a rude email. I am now barred from bidding on the item. If he turns a bid of £4000 down, which pushed the highest bid by Cocusflute up to £4100, then he knows it is a scam! As I write this, the listing is still there at 22.27GMT. Sorry to get your hopes up David that a genuine bidder might be prepared to bid that sort of money for a Lachenal Edeophone and especially that far in advance of the end of the auction. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Sylte Posted November 29, 2007 Share Posted November 29, 2007 I would love to mess with this guy, and I'm not banned from bidding, yet. However, the possibility remains (does it not?), that if this auction closes full term, I win, and do not pay, that this wingnut could give me negative feedback, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveP Posted November 29, 2007 Share Posted November 29, 2007 It's gone!! And about time too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Levine Posted November 29, 2007 Share Posted November 29, 2007 "...if this auction closes full term, I win, and do not pay, that this wingnut could give me negative feedback, right?" No- EBay allows for bids placed in error. I was prepared to say, if I had in fact won, that I had only bid £700 but a bid of £7,000 had been entered in error. Next time we see something like this we should all bid ridiculous figures. I sent EBay the numbers both for the real and the scam auctions. Three hours later the auction was disappeared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david robertson Posted November 29, 2007 Author Share Posted November 29, 2007 Thank you all for your help and support. It's good to know that we can beat the scammers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Drinkwater Posted November 29, 2007 Share Posted November 29, 2007 I sent EBay the numbers both for the real and the scam auctions. Three hours later the auction was disappeared. I reported it to Ebay as well last night, on the basis that even if he did have a genuine concertina for sale, it's still an Ebay offence to copy the text and pictures from another person's listing, which he clearly has done. Seems our combined efforts have worked. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andie Posted November 29, 2007 Share Posted November 29, 2007 Thank you all for your help and support. It's good to know that we can beat the scammers! Hi again, Jesus! I didn't think my concertina could cause so much trouble David! Thanks to everyone for keeping the game straight! Cheers! Andie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Drinkwater Posted November 29, 2007 Share Posted November 29, 2007 Thank you all for your help and support. It's good to know that we can beat the scammers! Jesus! I didn't think my concertina could cause so much trouble David. You don't want to sell it by any chance, Andie? Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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