Peter Trimming Plays - Ty Coch Caerdydd.

[PeterT]

I'm wondering whether there is mileage in what I have done in these two video clips. By placing a mirror close to one hand, I have filmed both hands playing simultaneously (albeit one is mirror image). Is this easier to watch than a front view where the angle on both hands is a compromise?

 

Ty Coch Caerdydd - high view

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=mMGZZBPWtVM

 

Ty Coch Caerdydd - low view

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=T4nLli6pv_o

 

Also, I know which view I favour, so would be interested in feed-back to see whether others share my opinion.

 

Thanks,

Peter.

Edited November 1, 2007 by PeterT

[Pete Dunk]

Also, I know which view I favour, so would be interested in feed-back to see whether others share my opinioin.

 

I don't play anglo so it's all a mystery to me but if Danny Chapman was to make a similar video playing an English I think it would make more sense from the lower angle. Nice playing by the way.

[PeterT]

I happened to check on YouTube, and found the following clip:

 

Welsh Folk Dancing at The National Eisteddfod, Swansea 2006

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=pIOS19WzEZM

 

Music made visible!

[David Barnert]

I'm wondering whether there is mileage in what I have done in these two video clips. By placing a mirror close to one hand, I have filmed both hands playing simultaneously (albeit one is mirror image). Is this easier to watch than a front view where the angle on both hands is a compromise?

It's a nice idea and addresses a problem that I have been aware of watching all the youtube concertina videos these last few months, ie., that you can't see what both (or either of the) hands are doing. But I find the fact that now they both look like right hands a bit disorienting.

 

I would encourage experimenting with a 2nd mirror to re-invert the image of the left hand so that the right hand is seen directly and the left hand is seen through two successive mirrors.

[PeterT]

I would encourage experimenting with a 2nd mirror to re-invert the image of the left hand so that the right hand is seen directly and the left hand is seen through two successive mirrors.

Hi David,

 

Thanks for your comment and observation.

 

My first thought was "Oh bugger, more expense!".

 

My second thought was that the laws of physics would make this very difficult to achieve.

 

The mirror by the left hand would need to be at a 45 degree angle, with the second mirror directly above (both approximate angles to demonstrate the point). Then there's the problem with the correct camera angle (below the player) to capture both images. Whilst all of this is technically possible (as far as my mind will reason), I've calculated that the mirror/mirror image would appear about four times further away compared with the direct image (i.e. although the second hand would appear "correct" in terms or orientation, the image would be tiny).

 

 

Regards,

Peter.

[Graham Collicutt]

Hi Peter

 

I don't find it a problem looking at the reversed image. The top is still the top and the inside, middle and outside rows are not reversed. I thought the lower angle was the best but for the glare from the window and the poorer light levels on the left side. Is it any improvement over the close up view?

 

Thank you for what you have done so far.

 

Cheers, Graham

[Chris Drinkwater]

Peter

Doing it with mirrors. Is this a reflection of You Tube videos to come?

 

Chris

[Dirge]

Nice to see you back on form, Chris.

[PeterT]

Is this a reflection of You Tube videos to come?

I'll have to reflect on that, Chris.

 

I just hope that it doesn't reflect badly on my playing!

 

Regards,

Peter.

[asdormire]

I think I got this figured out. A dapper looking guy like Peter must have lots of ladies hanging about. He just needs to teach to two of them to play, have them play in unison while standing back to back. This way we can see the fingerings as they play. See what having such a sharp hat can do for you.

 

Alan

[PeterT]

A dapper looking guy like Peter must have lots of ladies hanging about. He just needs to teach to two of them to play, have them play in unison while standing back to back.

Not even in my dreams, Alan!

 

I'd only need one, plus video camera operator, of course.

 

Regards, and thanks for the suggestion,

Peter.

[Chris Drinkwater]

Is this a reflection of You Tube videos to come?

 

I just hope that it doesn't reflect badly on my playing!

 

Regards,

Peter.

 

Hopefully not Peter. Oh, and I guess that if you clean your mirror nicely beforehand, you get a more polished performance!!

 

Regards

Chris

[David Barnert]

A dapper looking guy like Peter must have lots of ladies hanging about. He just needs to teach to two of them to play, have them play in unison while standing back to back.

Not even in my dreams, Alan!

 

I'd only need one, plus video camera operator, of course.

If you give her a 2nd camera, you can show both of your hands without mirrors!

[PeterT]

If you give her a 2nd camera, you can show both of your hands without mirrors!

So I was right, first time, David. "Oh bugger, more expense!".

Regards,

Peter.

 

PS - maybe she'd bring a second camera with her................