Alan Day Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 There has been a number of hitches with English International mostly Graham's end, but I have been told today, that it will be released in August. Duet has been running in parrallel with English for some time with some Duet Players being contacted, but some not. If you are not contacted within the next couple of weeks and you feel that you have something to offer,please do not hesitate to contact me .If you are not sure please also contact me. If any of you have any suggestions for artists who you feel should be included ,I would also be very pleased for the information. There is already a number of Archive recordings that have been donated or to be donated.Most of the major names have all agreed to do recordings, so we have made a major start. I am hoping that I will be able to repeat the three CD sets we have achieved with Anglo and English.The expected release date about Spring next Year. Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wild Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 (edited) There has been a number of hitches with English International mostly Graham's end, but I have been told today, that it will be released in August. I can't find the specific text, but I believe there was a hope that this would be out in time for Sidmouth festival. I could not be there, but it seems it did not happen. Is there an updated projected launch date? We are not far from the anniversary of the launch of Anglo international. Wouldn't that be a nice symmetry if the new release could coincide? Best wishes John Wild Edited August 13, 2007 by John Wild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Day Posted August 14, 2007 Author Share Posted August 14, 2007 There has been a number of hitches with English International mostly Graham's end, but I have been told today, that it will be released in August. I can't find the specific text, but I believe there was a hope that this would be out in time for Sidmouth festival. I could not be there, but it seems it did not happen. Is there an updated projected launch date? We are not far from the anniversary of the launch of Anglo international. Wouldn't that be a nice symmetry if the new release could coincide? Best wishes John Wild It certainly would be nice John,but it is hard to believe that this release has been affected by the bad weather. Graham does the sound for most of the festivals and as you know up until recently the sites have been a sea of mud.Graham,s time allocotaion for finishing off English International has been taken up by the difficulty of getting on and off sites, cleaning mud off his cables,speakers etc. Some work has been done doing the master CDs and Graham is trying to finish his part of this project as soon as possible,but without rushing it and spoiling it just to get it released quickly. As my part in English is now over I have made a start on Duet and already have sent invitations out to twenty five Duet players. English International represents about a years work for me sometimes until the early hours of the morning and I certainly will be very pleased to see it being enjoyed.I think it will be worth the wait. Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wild Posted August 14, 2007 Share Posted August 14, 2007 I think it will be worth the wait.Al I am certain it will. I was only asking. best wishes John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooves Posted August 14, 2007 Share Posted August 14, 2007 There has been a number of hitches with English International mostly Graham's end, but I have been told today, that it will be released in August. Duet has been running in parrallel with English for some time with some Duet Players being contacted, but some not. If you are not contacted within the next couple of weeks and you feel that you have something to offer,please do not hesitate to contact me .If you are not sure please also contact me. If any of you have any suggestions for artists who you feel should be included ,I would also be very pleased for the information. There is already a number of Archive recordings that have been donated or to be donated.Most of the major names have all agreed to do recordings, so we have made a major start. I am hoping that I will be able to repeat the three CD sets we have achieved with Anglo and English.The expected release date about Spring next Year. Al I do not have anything to contribute, but I like the project and would like to show my support. When the CD/DVD is released I will definately get one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Day Posted August 14, 2007 Author Share Posted August 14, 2007 Quote from Hooves I do not have anything to contribute, but I like the project and would like to show my support. When the CD/DVD is released I will definately get one. You did have something to contribute Hooves,you suggested a name to me and I have followed it up. Without these name suggestions I am lost, I know some players of the Duet, but nobody that did not know the system and were interested in the players of it would find twenty five players(at the current count) and some others still to contact.It is only with help from you all these Internationals are put together . It is a joint effort ,many thanks to you all for your support. Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asdormire Posted August 14, 2007 Share Posted August 14, 2007 (edited) Quote from Hooves I do not have anything to contribute, but I like the project and would like to show my support. When the CD/DVD is released I will definately get one. You did have something to contribute Hooves,you suggested a name to me and I have followed it up. Without these name suggestions I am lost, I know some players of the Duet, but nobody that did not know the system and were interested in the players of it would find twenty five players(at the current count) and some others still to contact.It is only with help from you all these Internationals are put together . It is a joint effort ,many thanks to you all for your support. Al You actually take suggestions, Al? Maybe you should see if you can addd that South American Cojunto band, Los de Pukaro that some one put in the video sections. They did several nice traditional (or at least standard) latin pieces as a band that I never heard played on concertina before. Only a suggestion, as I don't know the guidelines you are using, but it is international. Alan Edited August 14, 2007 by asdormire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m3838 Posted August 15, 2007 Share Posted August 15, 2007 that South American Cojunto band, Los de Pukaro that some one put in the video sections. They did several nice traditional (or at least standard) latin pieces as a band that I never heard played on concertina before. Only a suggestion, as I don't know the guidelines you are using, but it is international. Hmm. Not all is good that is international, I'll risk to say. Also, I expected the compilation to have unaccompanied concertina pieces, not drowned in a band. I think the reason for the compilations is the unfamiliarity of the public, including Concertina players, with varios styles and types of concertina employment. So the CD will be a bit eclectic in it's composition, which is fine, as far as it's connected by the main idea of many musical styles played on Concertina convincingly. I heard EC in Cajun band, which made me feel sorry for the player, who was rather good, actually. And many EC classical pieces accompanied by Piano makes me wish for the violin. I'm sure all will agree that it's not the fact of replacing traditional instruments with rare and unusual, that makes the music good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirge Posted August 15, 2007 Share Posted August 15, 2007 ON the other hand I've heard violin players that make me wish for a baseball bat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimLucas Posted August 15, 2007 Share Posted August 15, 2007 I'm sure all will agree that it's not the fact of replacing traditional instruments with rare and unusual, that makes the music good. Agreed. What makes it good in those instances is the musician who can make it sound as if it's not a "replacement", but as if the concertina was the intended instrument all along. Also, I expected the compilation to have unaccompanied concertina pieces, not drowned in a band. Not "drowned", certainly, but I hope there would be more than just single-instrument solos. Concertinas of all types can be wonderful in ensemble or as accompanying instruments, without losing their personal voices, and it would be sad to neglect that aspect. Not just concertinas, of course. What would be the reaction to a "Violin International" that had only violin/fiddle solos... no string quartet or concerto, no Swedish two-fiddle harmonies, no backing instruments on a bluegrass, jazz, or Roumanian dance number...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Day Posted August 15, 2007 Author Share Posted August 15, 2007 Quote from Hooves I do not have anything to contribute, but I like the project and would like to show my support. When the CD/DVD is released I will definately get one. You did have something to contribute Hooves,you suggested a name to me and I have followed it up. Without these name suggestions I am lost, I know some players of the Duet, but nobody that did not know the system and were interested in the players of it would find twenty five players(at the current count) and some others still to contact.It is only with help from you all these Internationals are put together . It is a joint effort ,many thanks to you all for your support. Al You actually take suggestions, Al? Maybe you should see if you can addd that South American Cojunto band, Los de Pukaro that some one put in the video sections. They did several nice traditional (or at least standard) latin pieces as a band that I never heard played on concertina before. Only a suggestion, as I don't know the guidelines you are using, but it is international. Alan I am certainly interested in bands.In Anglo International we have Jody Kruskal with his Contra Dance Band and Chris Sherburn with Last Nights Fun.We ask for the level of the concertina to be raised so that it leads the music and is not dominated by the other instruments,(providing it does not effect the arrangement).In that way we get the fun sound of the band and for us hear what the concertina player is doing. With South American bands or one from any country we have to know what system the concertina player is playing and in fact is it a Chemitser or Bandonion being called a concertina? This was discussed on this site recently following a critism of Anglo International, where it was stated that it was a shame we had not included one of these bands and it was agreed that these instruments although called concertinas are not. A trap waiting for me to fall into.If it is known that one of the bands plays Duet then I would be really interested. In this years Irish. Band competition a Duet player is playing in the finals with other members of her family. I am trying my hardest to persuade her to give me some recordings for Duet International. All part of my contribution. Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marien Posted August 15, 2007 Share Posted August 15, 2007 Background instruments are okay to me as long as they are supportive to the solo instrument. Like soft piano chords and may be an enrichment to a concertina solo. For many accompianists and accompianists the 2 biggest problems seems to be to keep in the background and to play in a supportive way. I guess that in a concertina project, the concertina remains the main instrument on all tracks. marien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Evans Posted August 15, 2007 Share Posted August 15, 2007 Background instruments are okay to me as long as they are supportive to the solo instrument. Like soft piano chords and may be an enrichment to a concertina solo. For many accompianists and accompianists the 2 biggest problems seems to be to keep in the background and to play in a supportive way. I guess that in a concertina project, the concertina remains the main instrument on all tracks. marien I wouldn't dissagree in principle. Some lad on the paino with heavy hands can be a trying evening. For me making music with others is a collaboration with the goal ballance and interplay. Many recordings I've heard are very heavy on the "solo" instrument even to the point of hearing the action clacking away like a typewriter or in the case of the voice clearly hearing the vocal folds buzing. I've at times felt I was down the chaps throat.... . I'm in a rental car at present and nearly ran off the road on my commute home yesterday as I was listening to a well known concertinists CD. The sound system in the rental accentuated the clacking on the right side to the extent I was literally startled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m3838 Posted August 15, 2007 Share Posted August 15, 2007 ON the other hand I've heard violin players that make me wish for a baseball bat. K-hm, well that's beyond the doubt. But I see you are a liberal. The weapons 'i' wish for are much less forgiving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m3838 Posted August 15, 2007 Share Posted August 15, 2007 Background instruments are okay to me as long as they are supportive to the solo instrument. Like soft piano chords and may be an enrichment to a concertina solo. For many accompianists and accompianists the 2 biggest problems seems to be to keep in the background and to play in a supportive way. I guess that in a concertina project, the concertina remains the main instrument on all tracks. marien I wouldn't dissagree in principle... For me making music with others is a collaboration with the goal ballance and interplay. Many recordings I've heard are very heavy on the "solo" instrument even to the point of hearing the action clacking away like a typewriter or in the case of the voice clearly hearing the vocal folds buzing. I've at times felt I was down the chaps throat.... . Nobody argues that a recording should be done right etc. I think a Concertina Compilation CD is different from mainstream. Even from "Violin Interantional'. Concertina is rare and needs to be heard in a different way. It needs to be introduced. If not, why call a CD "Concertrina International"? Call it "Dream Haze", or "Stomping Crawfish". The Project is less an Entertainment Enterprize, but more popularizing. A Violin International would have been the same in principle, but much more difficult in execution. I would actually expect more solo-ish pieces from such a CD, that stand by their own. Another aspect is having a Duet Concertina, accompanied by a piano or played the melody only in a band. What is the reason for playing Duet then and how it differs from EC? It defeats the purpose in such a CD. I would also wish for less Irish or English Traditional Music. I understand inclinations of the Antrepreneurs, due to their place of birth, culture and upbringing, but everybody agrees that ITM and Concertina have welded. It would be very useful to take Concertina out of Britain and see the results. Just my opinion (whose else?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody Posted August 15, 2007 Share Posted August 15, 2007 Judging by the Anglo International set I think Al's demonstrated that he can be trusted (as if we had any doubt) to come up with a collection that is interesting and entertaining while at the same time sensitive to the subject. Of course, if anybody's unhappy with the outcome that'll just give them an opportunity to collect and produce a CD set with their own take on the subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimLucas Posted August 15, 2007 Share Posted August 15, 2007 Of course, if anybody's unhappy with the outcome that'll just give them an opportunity to collect and produce a CD set with their own take on the subject. They could even do that if they're happy with Alan's efforts. The more, the merrier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m3838 Posted August 15, 2007 Share Posted August 15, 2007 (edited) ...Antrepreneurs... Or is it EntErpreneurs? Edited August 15, 2007 by m3838 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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