Don Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 Next on deck is an upgrade of the midi conversion engine, as suggested by Colin Hume. I'm working on it... Thanks, Paul Paul, I am a new contributor to the Tune-o-tron and was stumped in trying to create a file that used a different Midi instrument than piano. Is there a %%MIDI command that will work on the Tune-o-tron? Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Harrison Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 My question..............this tune,Pastorale, from the Tune-o-tron plays at twice the expected speed. http://www.concertina.net/tunes_detail.html?rec_id=1104. Is there anything I can do from my PC to slow it down to normal ? Thanks Robin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dunk Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 Is there anything I can do from my PC to slow it down to normal ? Yep, copy and paste the ABC source file back into the Tune-O-Tron and alter the value of the "Q:" field, it's currently set at 1/4=140 so try 100 and then 70 if it's really playing at double the normal tempo. Oddly the Tune-O-Tron seems to read the Q field differently to other abc applications (or maybe it was the old Tune-O-Tron that did that and old abc files need re-timing since the update). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dunk Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 Is there a %%MIDI command that will work on the Tune-o-tron? If there is I've not been able to find it. Try downloading ABC Navigator (free), that will use midi commands via the software but remember that if you add a midi command in a file submitted to the Tune-O-Tron database it will just be ignored. You could always add a comment that the file is best listened to using other abc software or manually setting the midi patch to X voice. Because Tune-O-Tron doesn't send midi commands it won't reset the manually selected voice. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Harrison Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 .....worked like a charm.............many thanks Robin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Harrison Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 .......................another thought if I may impose. I tried transposing it to G by altering the key,it sounds different ( bad) but I'm not sure it's done it.Is it possible to do that ? Thanks again Robin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dunk Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 Errrrm. Not sure to be honest, the Tune-O-Tron doesn't transpose as far as I'm aware but you might try downloading ABC Navigator, that might transpose it. There's also an online abc converter on folkinfo.org and I seem to remember that transposes. Give it a whirl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dunk Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 Ok, I've just double checked that. The folkinfo site does transpose but only outputs to midi, not pdf. So do the transposition and view the transposed abc after listening to the midi to make sure it's what you want. Copy and paste the abc into a text editor then take it over to the Tune-O-Tron to get the dots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Harrison Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 Tallship...............excellent,excellent,excellent. Ours messages have crossed.................I've just done that and it also transposes the chords with it. I've just printed off a lovely piece from the Tune-o-Tron called Pastorale,by Charles Buterne and it appears to sit nicely for the G/G anglo..............I'm going to give it a whirl. You've been very helpful.........thanks again Robin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dunk Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 I'm pleased it worked out Robin, abc and the online tools are a great resourse and all for free. I remember painstakingly writing out tunes in manuscript books as a kid, looked awful and took ages. Now if you know the rudiments of musical theory and can manage to grasp the basics of a fairly logical 'language' you can churn out professional looking sheet music quite quickly. Bargain! Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Norris Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 Wow! Id really love to convert some of my pipe tunes, can this be done? X:1 T:Untitled 2 M:4/4 L:1/8 R:Slow air C:R. Mathieson Q:66 K:HP %Highland Bagpipe V:1 |:A|{g} d/2e/2{g} f/2a/2 {e} f4 {g} ec|{g} d/2e/2{g} f/2d/2 {G} A4 {g} dA|{GdG} B2- Bd {gf} g2 {a} g/2a/2f/2g/2|{ef} e4- e3 A| %Highland Bagpipe V:2 |:A|{g} B/2c/2{g} d/2f/2 {g} B4 {g} cA|{g} B/2c/2{g} d/2B/2 {G} A {g} B/2c/2{g} d/2B/2 {G} A {g} dA|{g} G2- GB {g} e2 {g} e/2f/2d/2e/2|{gcd} c2 {g} e/2f/2d/2e/2 {gcd} c3 A| %Highland Bagpipe V:1 |{g} d/2e/2{g} f/2a/2 {e} f4 {g} ec|{g} d/2e/2{g} f/2d/2 {G} A4 {g} dA|{d} Bd {gf} gB {G} Ad {g} c/2d/2{g} e/2c/2|{Gdc} d2 {g} d/2e/2{g} f/2e/2 d3:| %Highland Bagpipe V:2 |{g} B/2c/2{g} d/2f/2 {g} B4 {g} cA|{g} B/2c/2{g} d/2B/2 {G} A {g} B/2c/2{g} d/2B/2 {G} A {g} dA|{g} GB {g} eB {G} AB {g} A/2B/2{g} c/2A/2|{gBd} B2 {g} B/2c/2{g} d/2c/2 {gBd} B3:| %Highland Bagpipe V:1 |:e|{g} c/2B/2c/2d/2 {gef} e2- eA {gcd} cA|{g} d/2c/2d/2e/2 {g} f2- f{e} A {g} d{e} A|{GdG} B2- Bd {gf} g2 {a} g/2a/2f/2g/2|{ef} e4- e3 A| %Highland Bagpipe V:2 |:e|{g} A/2G/2A/2B/2 {gcd} c2- cA {gAd} A-A|{gBd} B/2A/2B/2c/2 {g} d2- dA {g} BA|{gGd} G2- GB {g} e2 {g} e/2f/2d/2e/2|{gcd} c2 {g} e/2f/2d/2e/2 {gcd} c3 A| %Highland Bagpipe V:1 |{g} d/2e/2{g} f/2a/2 {e} f4 {g} ec|{g} d/2e/2{g} f/2d/2 {G} A4 {g} dA|{d} Bd {gf} gB {G} Ad {g} c/2d/2{g} e/2c/2|{Gdc} d2 {g} d/2e/2{g} f/2e/2 d3:| %Highland Bagpipe V:2 |{g} B/2c/2{g} d/2f/2 {g} B4 {g} cA|{g} B/2c/2{g} d/2B/2 {G} A {g} B/2c/2{g} d/2B/2 {G} A {g} dA|{g} GB {g} eB {G} AB {g} A/2B/2{g} c/2A/2|{gBd} B2 {g} B/2c/2{g} d/2c/2 {gBd} B3:| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimLucas Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 I've just printed off a lovely piece from the Tune-o-Tron called Pastorale,by Charles Buterne and it appears to sit nicely for the G/G anglo.............. Is that one of those double-reeded models? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laitch Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 Id really love to convert some of my pipe tunes, can this be done? For one answer, try copying them to the Convert-a-matic, submitting them then outputting their PDFs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dunk Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Wow! Id really love to convert some of my pipe tunes, can this be done? I'm starting to lose the plot here. If you can write an abc file to this standard that works perfectly well in the Convert-A-Matic why do you need to ask the question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Norris Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Wow! Id really love to convert some of my pipe tunes, can this be done? I'm starting to lose the plot here. If you can write an abc file to this standard that works perfectly well in the Convert-A-Matic why do you need to ask the question? Im asking that if I convert o matic my ABC pipe tunes will they be in the correct format for the concertina? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dunk Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 (edited) Im asking that if I convert o matic my ABC pipe tunes will they be in the correct format for the concertina? I play English concertina, fully chromatic in any key. Bring it on big boy! (Edited to add) I should add that beyond three sharps and four flats I start to get a bit lost but hey, I'm only human! Edited March 24, 2008 by tallship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Norris Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 (edited) Im asking that if I convert o matic my ABC pipe tunes will they be in the correct format for the concertina? I play English concertina, fully chromatic in any key. Bring it on big boy! Yup,, Thats me the big boy Edited March 24, 2008 by Bob Norris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buikligger Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Is there anything I can do from my PC to slow it down to normal ? Yep, copy and paste the ABC source file back into the Tune-O-Tron and alter the value of the "Q:" field, it's currently set at 1/4=140 so try 100 and then 70 if it's really playing at double the normal tempo. Oddly the Tune-O-Tron seems to read the Q field differently to other abc applications (or maybe it was the old Tune-O-Tron that did that and old abc files need re-timing since the update). Hi all, I use a combination of Tune-o-tron and thesession.org to learn my new tunes . I copy and paste the Session version into the Tune-o-tron. With the Q field i can produce the speed i need. Is there a way to save the slightly modified ABC (no ~ e.g., latest speed ) for next time i want to rehearse? thanks beforehand dirk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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