Daniel Hersh Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 A "Barnet Samuel" Anglo is currently here on eBay. Were they a maker or a re-seller of others' concertinas? If a re-seller, who made this one? I found a reference to them here, but it doesn't say one way or the other. Daniel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Chambers Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 Daniel, They were dealers, not makers. That's either a Jones, or possibly a Nickolds; I couldn't be sure which without taking it apart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Jowaisas Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 Stephen, Would the primary Jones vs. Nickolds indication be the riveted vs. "G" hook and lever? Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Chambers Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 (edited) Would the primary Jones vs. Nickolds indication be the riveted vs. "G" hook and lever? Greg, Both that and the "nibbled" (not drilled) clamping plate holding the reeds onto the shoes. But Nickolds Anglos often have other eccentricities too; like the holes in the action board, for the buttons, often being drilled straight through (not "blind" as they usually are) ... Edited January 29, 2007 by Stephen Chambers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wes williams Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 I found a reference to them here, but it doesn't say one way or the other. Daniel - We need reports before I can add more info into things there. Reports of dealers labels on identified makers instruments are always welcome. But I notice that the palm rest has a 'steel' stamp on it. I've seen Nickolds with stampings on the palm rest, a N&S motif, but did Jones ever stamp them there, Stephen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Chambers Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 I notice that the palm rest has a 'steel' stamp on it. I've seen Nickolds with stampings on the palm rest, a N&S motif, but did Jones ever stamp them there, Stephen? Wes, It's another little detail that makes me suspect that it may well be a Nickolds, but it's hard to be sure with that fretwork. I'd still like to see what's inside it before I commit myself ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Crossland Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 (edited) Some pictures here of a Barnet Samuel 5" 20 key anglo, just received for some TLC. It's very Lachenal, stamped on the right hand end hand support with the English Made and reed frame pattern, though because of its size, the support is too thin to stamp "Steel Reeds" on. Action too is typical Lachenal. The right hand end has B S & Co fretted into the pattern, and the reed quality is excellent - a very loud little box indeed. Dave Prebble has previously mentioned a 5" Lachenal in his possession with a good, loud tone - is this a feature of the size?? Edited February 12, 2007 by Billcro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Crossland Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 (edited) Some pictures here of a Barnett Samuel 5" 20 key anglo, just received for some TLC. It's very Lachenal, stamped on the right hand end hand support with the English Made and reed frame pattern, though because of its size, the support is too thin to stamp "Steel Reeds" on. Action too is typical Lachenal. The right hand end has B S & Co fretted into the pattern, and the reed quality is excellent - a very loud little box indeed. Dave Prebble has previously mentioned a 5" Lachenal in his possession with a good, loud tone - is this a feature of the size?? Edited February 12, 2007 by Billcro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Prebble Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 Some pictures here of a Barnett Samuel 5" 20 key anglo, just received for some TLC. It's very Lachenal, stamped on the right hand end hand support with the English Made and reed frame pattern, though because of its size, the support is too thin to stamp "Steel Reeds" on. Action too is typical Lachenal. The right hand end has B S & Co fretted into the pattern, and the reed quality is excellent - a very loud little box indeed. Dave Prebble has previously mentioned a 5" Lachenal in his possession with a good, loud tone - is this a feature of the size?? The one I have has 'L & Co, cut in the fretwork and appears pretty much identical to the one you have Bill. Partly a function of the size I would say ( minis do tend to be fairly loud) but in the main part due to the quality of reeds used. That one of mine is certainly a very loud box and will 'outpunch' many a Jeffries. Compare Bills box with the pictures on Morgana's site 5 Inch Lachenal Regards to all Dave Prebble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Crossland Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 After comparing dimensions and other fascinating features with Mr Prebble, it became apparent that, most importantly, they are smashing little boxes, but secondly that my over active fretworking imagination had been at work.... Rather than B, S & Co, it reads a rather more boring L & Co. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Prebble Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 After comparing dimensions and other fascinating features with Mr Prebble I'll show you mine if you show me yours Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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