Juanita wolff Posted September 30, 2006 Share Posted September 30, 2006 "Little wear and apparently all original in excellent condition. 50 key Jeffries Brs. Duet-Concertina. All buttons work. I have a bid of $3750. US. Will accept bids until 5 October 2006. email: wmstudio@flash.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juanita wolff Posted September 30, 2006 Author Share Posted September 30, 2006 first bid: bignick has sent you this email from http://www.concertina.net/forums/index.php. Hi Juanita! I am Nick Robertshaw (bignick) and have been following, and responding to, the thread that you started on Concertina.net. I would like to offer you $3,750 for the instrument. (equivalent to the 2000 pounds the group seems to have settled on for a fair price). If you want to let people know that you have this offer in hand, and even that it's from me, that's OK. You might get a better one and, who knows, a bidding war might ensue. I live in Frederick, Maryland (although I am English) and I'm sure we can contrive a way to conduct the transaction that we are both comfortable with. Good luck! Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juanita wolff Posted October 2, 2006 Author Share Posted October 2, 2006 I've noticed that I inadvertently posted two different deadline dates for the sale of the Jeffries Bros Duet Concertina, 50-key that is posted here and also on the Buy & Sell classified ads details. On this one, I've listed the 5th of October. On the Buy & sell classified ads, I've listed 7th of October. So I will make it the 7th of October for listings at BOTH locations. And I suppose I should put a time on it, too? So, How's about by 5 PM New Mexico time (Mountain standard time, USA) Sorry I wasn't more explicit when originally posted. Juanita Wolff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juanita wolff Posted October 2, 2006 Author Share Posted October 2, 2006 I've noticed that I inadvertently posted two different deadline dates for the sale of the Jeffries Bros Duet Concertina, 50-key that is posted here and also on the Buy & Sell classified ads details. On this one, I've listed the 5th of October. On the Buy & sell classified ads, I've listed 7th of October. So I will make it the 7th of October for listings at BOTH locations. And I suppose I should put a time on it, too? So, How's about by 5 PM New Mexico time (Mountain standard time, USA) Sorry I wasn't more explicit when originally posted. Juanita Wolff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juanita wolff Posted October 3, 2006 Author Share Posted October 3, 2006 On this day, tuesday, October 3rd, 11AM MST, we have accepted a bid for $4,000. for the Jeffries duet-concertina and have decided to sell it at that price. Upon receiving full payment, we will withdraw the duet-concertina ad and mark it SOLD. Juanita Wolff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignick Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 I confess. It was I! The instrument is a delight and seems to be happy to be singing again: http://www.forepath.org/JeffriesDuet.mp3 Those of you with perfect pitch will detect right away that the instrument is in C-half-sharp, C and a Bit, or A=452 Hz. So, who would like to tune it up to D? Steve Dickenson did my other JD (which was originally a tone lower than this one) and the results were wonderful and bright and loud and even. It probably could use some fresh felt in the action too as it is quite clicky. Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malcolm clapp Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 So, who would like to tune it up to D? Steve Dickenson did my other JD (which was originally a tone lower than this one) and the results were wonderful and bright and loud and even. It probably could use some fresh felt in the action too as it is quite clicky. Nick More than happy to take on the job if you would like to mortgage your house to pay for the shipping..... I promise not to convert it to an anglo.... Then again, I have only a 3 or 4 week backlog at the moment as I've been knocking jobs back to reduce it from where it was earlier this year.... MC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Besser Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 I confess. It was I!The instrument is a delight and seems to be happy to be singing again: That's great, I was hoping you snagged it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Jowaisas Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 Thanks for the great sound clip, Nick! I submit that your playing and the great sound of your new duet is the best argument against converting duets into anglos. Well done! And keep speading the gospel. Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterT Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 I confess. It was I! Well done, Nick. The instrument sounds happy in its new home. Regards, Peter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Timson Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 Me too. Chris Just thought I'd post a genuine "me too" post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignick Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 Me too. Chris Just thought I'd post a genuine "me too" post. Aw gee thanks guys. My first internet me-too storm! Seriously though. Who should I ask to undertake the tuning, assuming that I want to get it done on the North American continent (not to impugn Malcolm's tuning, I'm sure the switch in magnetic field direction between here and Oz won't have too big an effect, I'm just nervous about the potential loss or damage in shipping (and, yes, the cost)) It's a lovely box and it needs to be done by someone with a great ear for voicing and balance and who owns those little files made of unobtanium that can mark Jeffries reeds. As I mentioned, Steve D did my last rework and an up-tune of a tone and a half and it's still playing strong after more than 25 years! I should also mention that I'm not good at waiting (I bought this box because my Dipper is a tad overdue). So, how is Malcolm's work? Feel free to re-locate this thread if you think it will be happier somewhere else. Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidFR Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 Aw gee thanks guys. My first internet me-too storm! Seriously though. Who should I ask to undertake the tuning, assuming that I want to get it done on the North American continent (not to impugn Malcolm's tuning, I'm sure the switch in magnetic field direction between here and Oz won't have too big an effect, I'm just nervous about the potential loss or damage in shipping (and, yes, the cost)) It's a lovely box and it needs to be done by someone with a great ear for voicing and balance and who owns those little files made of unobtanium that can mark Jeffries reeds. As I mentioned, Steve D did my last rework and an up-tune of a tone and a half and it's still playing strong after more than 25 years! I should also mention that I'm not good at waiting (I bought this box because my Dipper is a tad overdue). So, how is Malcolm's work? Feel free to re-locate this thread if you think it will be happier somewhere else. Nick I don't know if he's still directly in the repair business or not, or if he would do tuning on instruments other than those he himself has sold, but I would recommend Paul Groff. I'm on my second Groff restored and tuned box would highly recommend his work to anyone. -David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Jowaisas Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 I admire Paul Groff's work but I know first hand that his policy has been not to work on instruments that he hasn't personally sold to customers. I suppose you could ask Paul. He does love Jeffries. I have a Jeffries duet and a C/G Jeffries that I bought from Malcolm Clapp. Both instruments are wonderful. The man knows what he is doing! (At least as far as concertinas are concerned! Right, Malcolm?) Malcolm is quite forthright in his opinions and honest and trustworthy in his dealings. As mentioned, the only problem is that he is on the other side of the world from us! I think Nick is correct in being concerned about voicing and tuning nuance. The Jeffries duet lives for chords and they should sound big and glorious. Let us know how it all turns out. Best of luck, Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Groff Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 [ Nick I don't know if he's still directly in the repair business or not, or if he would do tuning on instruments other than those he himself has sold, but I would recommend Paul Groff. I'm on my second Groff restored and tuned box would highly recommend his work to anyone. -David Thanks very much David, it's a pleasure to contribute to the work of such a talented and promising young player. However, I don't work on instruments except for my retail customers and students. Nick, since you have asked for suggestions, I have three ideas. Do NOT mean to impugn anyone by omitting them here -- I'm sure many would do a good job for you -- but speaking from my limited experience with other restorers, 1) Colin Dipper is my closest friend, hero, and mentor in concertina tuning and for that reason I always suggest calling him. My sense is that he is overworked and refusing new repair jobs also, but why not ask him yourself? 2) You mention a concern with shipping costs, and with cost in general. In North America, call the Button Box; I'm sure they will do excellent work and will save you on shipping. However, while on this subject, be careful what you communicate about your desire for inexpensive repairs (and this applies to any repairperson). For a top quality instrument I would always advise that you adopt the perspective that trying to go cheap on restoration may cost you much more in value over the long term. In the case of this instrument, anyone who works on it should be told that you don't want "the minimum," but want their best work even if more time-consuming and expensive. The quality and nature of repair work on a fine instrument obviously influence its sound and playability, but (especially if there is a major rise in prices, as with Jeffries anglos, pre-war Martin guitars, etc.) can sometimes affect resale worth by an order of magnitude! 3) You mention how much you appreciate Steve Dickenson's work on your other duet. If you know that he does them in a way that you like, why not give him your business again? Maybe like some other repairers he is not taking on work because the standard rates don't really make it worth his while (this is just speculation since I don't know him), but if he is hesitant to work with you again I would consider offering him a substantial premium. I bet that all the work he did for you, that has kept you playing for decades, seems ridiculously cheap now (perhaps to you, perhaps to him...), so why not reward him with your business and a big bonus to be paid if the work is completed very promptly. Moral of story, never ask for advice....;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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