Alan Day Posted April 12, 2006 Share Posted April 12, 2006 Has the Morris dancing two's a new dance and concertina player. I watched them yesterday and they have a concertina player playing the music,I am sure it was a Melodion before and a longer dance? However I could be wrong,see what you think Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Timson Posted April 12, 2006 Share Posted April 12, 2006 Has the Morris dancing two's a new dance and concertina player. Que? Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimLucas Posted April 12, 2006 Share Posted April 12, 2006 Has the Morris dancing two's a new dance and concertina player.I watched them yesterday and they have a concertina player playing the music,I am sure it was a Melodion before and a longer dance? However I could be wrong,see what you think Que? Here is the earlier Topic. And here is the earlier clip, with the music being played on melodeon. Alan, you seem to be suggesting that the clip that's currently on TV is a different one. If you look at the linked one, is it really different from what you saw yesterday? Currently without cable service or even a TV, I can't use that to look for the current version. If it really is a new clip, does anyone know if it can be found on the net? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Timson Posted April 12, 2006 Share Posted April 12, 2006 Tak! Haven't seen this, which shows how much television I watch. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Peters Posted April 12, 2006 Share Posted April 12, 2006 Has the Morris dancing two's a new dance and concertina player.I watched them yesterday and they have a concertina player playing the music,I am sure it was a Melodion before and a longer dance? I haven't seen this since last year but I did watch it pretty carefully at the time, and formed the opinion (from the dubious synchronisation of bellows movements with the music) that the musician was miming. Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterT Posted April 12, 2006 Share Posted April 12, 2006 ... I did watch it pretty carefully at the time, and formed the opinion (from the dubious synchronisation of bellows movements with the music) that the musician was miming. Must have been a "Top of the Pops" performance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Woloschuk Posted April 13, 2006 Share Posted April 13, 2006 (edited) Just trying to identify the tradition...... Straight in with a 1/2 Hey, 1/2 Gip, Whole Hey, Back to Back, Distinctive Figure ending on a 1/2 Gip. Any ideas? Edited April 13, 2006 by wolosp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Day Posted April 14, 2006 Author Share Posted April 14, 2006 Just trying to identify the tradition...... Straight in with a 1/2 Hey, 1/2 Gip, Whole Hey, Back to Back, Distinctive Figure ending on a 1/2 Gip. Any ideas? After a lot of investigation I have discovered that this dance comes from Upton upon Tooze Another page from the completely useless information book Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Brook Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 (edited) Hi Alan, The on screen cartoon has always shown a concertina, and the sound (to my ears) has always been provided by a melodeon. all the best, Peter Edited April 18, 2006 by Peter Brook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Day Posted April 18, 2006 Author Share Posted April 18, 2006 You are right and it must be the original one perhaps the dance I saw was just played for a longer time, a few more gips and heys perhaps. Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animaterra Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 a few more gips and heys perhaps. I learn something new from this site every day! In the true oral tradition, I had never seen "gip" written down- I always assumed it was spelled "gyp". Now I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimLucas Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 a few more gips and heys perhaps.I learn something new from this site every day! In the true oral tradition, I had never seen "gip" written down- I always assumed it was spelled "gyp". Now I know. For the Morris figure, that seems to be the traditional spelling. But "gyp" seems to be considered the more common spelling for the word that means "to cheat". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spectacled Warbler Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 Interesting.....I've never heard of 'gyp' to cheat. In our area 'to gip' or 'gipping' (pronounced with a hard g not a j) describes one's body trying to vomit, usually followed by strenuous preventative swallowing or retching if the swallowing fails. And giving something some 'gyp' (pronounced jip) means doing something enthusiastically or forcefully. 'Gyp' is also used to describe annoyance or discomfort, such as 'my tummy's giving me some gyp'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Barnert Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 (edited) The on screen cartoon has always shown a concertina, and the sound (to my ears) has always been provided by a melodeon. This was discussed on the Morris Dance Discussion List some time ago and led to a brief exchange of e-mail between me and the fellow who played the melodeon in the recording session. He worked closely with the composer, whose job it was to fashion a believable morris tune from the first four notes (e, g, d, , which are the logo tune for the BBC 2. Edited to disable emoticons. The turned into the little guy with shades. Edited April 19, 2006 by David Barnert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 We've been discussing adding the dance to our Morris side's repertoire (Auntie's Ident - Shepherd's Bush tradition) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Brook Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 We've been discussing adding the dance to our Morris side's repertoire (Auntie's Ident - Shepherd's Bush tradition) Is that a tradition in its own right or a "spin-off" of Hammersmith? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnrobinson Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 I always understood that 'gyp' (or 'gip') was an abreviation of 'gypsie'. Indeed some sides use this term, as opposed to the shortened version! Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 Is that a tradition in its own right or a "spin-off" of Hammersmith? Spun-off the Hammersmith one-way system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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