Chris Timson Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 Friendly rivalry aside, I've found there is nothing in the trad world that can hurt your eardrums more than a strident anglo. I beg to differ. Saxophone beats even Martin Nail's Jeffries hollow. Not a folk instrument, you say? Tell that to the saxophonists who play at Sidmouth in the Radway Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galley Wench Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 as a new member and a piano accordion player I feel a little out of my depth to add anything, but here goes. I tried the push pull system and failed, so I have just got an english concertina (cheap but a good trainer) and find that I can produce some kind of a tune even after a short time. So I have to vote on the side of the concertina. Even if its english. Good to find someone else who struggled with the concept of push and pull systems. Last year I decided to start playing a musical instrucment and stumbled on the Concertina. As I touch type, pushing buttons without looking made perfect sense to me. After much deliberation decided upon the English concertina. After 2 weeks I knew that this was for me and even though I am very much a novice (hadn't even read a note of music before last year) I really enjoy playing - the perfect end to a busy stressful day. The concertina is a wonderful portable instrument. However, its horses for courses and I must admit I do listen to some melodian players with a touch of envy. This is also my first posting as generally I feel a lot out of my depth when reading some things written here. Also does not help that it seems to me that more Anglo players post stuff than English. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Timson Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 (edited) Also does not help that it seems to me that more Anglo players post stuff than English. Anglo players talk too much, that's all. Sorry, collectively. The most talkative mamber of this forum plays anglo (and duet), but his first and main instrument remains English. Post lots yourself and help even the balance. Chris Edited to add PS: I should have said welcome to the forum as well, so Welcome to the forum Edited February 13, 2006 by Chris Timson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m3838 Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 >Anglo players talk too much, that's all. I thought this is a talking forum. How much would you like it to be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff H Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 (edited) Norteno/Tex Mex Conjunto Honer Corona III, The Gabinelli 3 rows and CBA and Piano Accordion For Forro , CHoro and MPB.. Piano Accordion.. However I have seen CBA and 2 1/2 row used ( Raoul Barbosa) For Gaucho.. this is specialiazed ( and forgive my failing memory) there is a very special Hybrid instrument known as a Punta Gaita or something close ( I may have to check that again) that is a 2 1/2 row with a modified short stradella bass system There is a player famous for this style Re(a)nato(e) Borghetti ????? I'll check my sources and get back.. This instrument used to be made in Argentina by a couple of companies but now I believe there are but one or two Italian companies making them, rare but cool. This is very fast music..punctuated by lots of double notes and triplets, fast runs etc Seems like the universal instrument here would be the CBA or a 2 1/2 row Jeff Edited February 14, 2006 by Jeff H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Anderson Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 For playing with others, or playing along with the radio, I prefer my English concertinas. I can play them in more keys than my D/G melodeon, the sound blends better with most jazz instruments, and I have no need to provide my own bass accompaniment. For playing alone I prefer the melodeon. The multiple reeds produce a "bigger" sound and I can play a bass accompaniment, which I've given up being able to do on the EC. And for what it's worth, there are times and places that I prefer my mandolins and/or recorders to any of my free reed instruments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Bill Posted February 26, 2006 Author Share Posted February 26, 2006 Norteno/Tex Mex ConjuntoHoner Corona III, The Gabinelli 3 rows and CBA and Piano Accordion For Forro , CHoro and MPB.. Piano Accordion.. However I have seen CBA and 2 1/2 row used ( Raoul Barbosa) For Gaucho.. this is specialiazed ( and forgive my failing memory) there is a very special Hybrid instrument known as a Punta Gaita or something close ( I may have to check that again) that is a 2 1/2 row with a modified short stradella bass system There is a player famous for this style Re(a)nato(e) Borghetti ????? I'll check my sources and get back.. This instrument used to be made in Argentina by a couple of companies but now I believe there are but one or two Italian companies making them, rare but cool. This is very fast music..punctuated by lots of double notes and triplets, fast runs etc Seems like the universal instrument here would be the CBA or a 2 1/2 row Jeff Great info here. I'm in the midst of some excellent sources of information. Thanks!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff H Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 I meant to type Corona II not III the 3's are not so common the 3 R however is a favorite of mine and of Some Canadian players.. best of luck Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffwright Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 I also like .... the Jimmy Shand models Me too - I play a Morino PA - great sound. I vote for anglos any day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackWoehr Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 I play Hayden Duet Concertina, piano accordion, and various diatonic button systems (3-row, Club System, Garmoshka). The reasons for the different button systems on accordion I've already discussed in the web article Why Button Accordion?. Concertina vs. Accordion: Concertina is lighter, more supple, more bellows flexibility, and has a thinner sound that fits in a combo playing sophisticated arrangements better than accordion does. Accordion is punchier, meatier, bassier, and since it doesn't have the bellows suppleness and flexibility of concertina it doesn't matter so much when you add reeds per note. My choice is like the fellow above, "Learn both." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackWoehr Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 Of course, if the question really is, how do I sound like modern Norteño music, then it's the 3-row for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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