Cheshire Waltz

[Robin Harrison]

Bill and I recorded this today...............it's a 3 part waltz in 3/8 time.

                It's a wonderful tune........the recording was a bit experimental so Bill should have been close to the camera ( or me further away) and the table was unnecessary.................but after 37 takes we deemd it ok.

   We seem to have a sympatico way of playing so the 1st time through although there are 2 anglos playing, it sounds like one.

                  2nd time through I play a duet part and it becomes clearer.

   I have attached the sheet music with both parts and a link to the YouTube video.

                 Hope you enjoy it.

Robin

 

 

Cheshire Waltz + 2nd part.pdf

[Tiposx]

Very lively, well played!

[SIMON GABRIELOW]

So cheerful to watch and hear..and well worth those '37 takes' ( to get it as you wanted🌝

[Matt Heumann]

43 minutes ago, SIMON GABRIELOW said:

well worth those '37 takes' ( to get it as you wanted) 🌝

I find that doing multiple "takes", stopping & starting the recorder makes it harder and more stressful than to let it keep recording, continue playing or moving about, and edit out all the "unwanted" stuff later. Much less flustering. Sometimes I'll play it over 12 times, but never stopped, just paused took a deep breath, and went on playing. Post production makes all seem like virgin footage.

[Dan Worrall]

Nice tune and very nicely played, Robin! Do you know anything of the origin of that tune?

[SIMON GABRIELOW]

16 hours ago, Matt Heumann said:

I find that doing multiple "takes", stopping & starting the recorder makes it harder and more stressful than to let it keep recording, continue playing or moving about, and edit out all the "unwanted" stuff later. Much less flustering. Sometimes I'll play it over 12 times, but never stopped, just paused took a deep breath, and went on playing. Post production makes all seem like virgin footage.

Yes I do that technique of multiple 'takes' myself, particularly in more tricky pieces; that's the advantage of recording performance, versus live, and that's why sometimes people get fussed over little mistakes in live set up ( not recorded or edited).. forgetting it is literally happening at that moment.  Really ( live) performance  is rather nice, I think when you hear the slight differences in playing, which are not cut out later on🌝

[AndyNT]

18 hours ago, Dan Worrall said:

Nice tune and very nicely played, Robin! Do you know anything of the origin of that tune?

 

Its from a Joshua Gibbons manuscript - https://tunearch.org/wiki/Cheshire_Waltz

[John Wild]

In the published book Lincoln Collections volume 1, i.e. the Joshua Gibbons manuscript, it is in the key of D.

However, it is stated that the original key was C.

In the book, it appears as the 1st of a tune set, paired with La Daphne Quadrilles. This tune is in A, and the original key is stated as G.

 

These are the ABC notations in the original keys. Note the source = Village Music Project.

X:84
T:Cheshire Waltz. JGi.084
M:3/8
L:1/16
Q:3/8=60
B:Joshua Gibbons MS,1823,Tealby,Lincs.
Z:Village Music Project, R.Greig, 2009
K:C
G2|e2efed|c2cdcB|A2B2c2|G4e2|f2e2d2|a2g2B2|d2c2c2|c4:|
|:f2|egfedc|B2d2f2|egecGE|C2E2G2|F2A2e2|f2d2c2|B2dcBA|G4G2|
e2efed|c2cdcB|A2B2c2|G4e2|f2e2d2|a2g2B2|d2c2c2|c4:|
|:G2|E2G2c2|c2B2A2|B2d2g2|f4e2|f2e2f2|A2d2c2|B2c2A2|G4:|
|:F2|E2G2c2|c2B2A2|B2d2g2|f4e2|f2e2f2|A2d2c2|cBAGAB|c6:|

 

X:85
T:Daphne Quadrill. JGi.085, La
M:6/8
L:1/8
Q:3/8=120
B:Joshua Gibbons MS,1823,Tealby,Lincs.
Z:Village Music Project, R.Greig, 2009
K:G
d|d2B gec|d2B GAB|cBc edc|c3{dc}B2d|
d2B gec|d2B GAB|BAe edF|G3-G3:|
|:B|A2Ae2d|(G3A3)|B2AB2d|B2{cB}A2B|
A2Ae2d|G3A3|B2AB2^c|d3 DFA|
dAd fed|d2^c Acd|eAg gfe|e2df2f|
g2ge2e|a3d2f|B2ge2^c|d3"DC"d3:|

 

The manuscript was transcribed into ABC notation as part of the Village Music Project.

See this website: https://www.village-music-project.org.uk/

[Roger Hare]

It's also in the VMP transcription of the William Hall Lister MS, which contains the additional information that the composer is Dalgetti - but I can't find any information about a composer called Dalgetti...🙁

[Dan Worrall]

Thanks, all! I shall endeavor to learn it.

[gcoover]

I think it was Spiers & Boden who made this very popular about 10 years ago. Here's the always amazing John Spiers playing it on concertina: