Star irish concertina player

[Accordionne]

Why would Jack Talty play on the Phoenix if it doesn't live up to the quality of a good concertina?

Am I naive... lol

This suggests that it would be a good intermediate instrument.

[Peter Laban]

Does he, though?

 

[Accordionne]

Excuse my ignorance, there is every reason to believe that this would be a good alternative

[Accordionne]

We often base ourselves in reference to the masters of the instrument to buy

[PaulDa321]

He just plays it in the ad as a sponsorship thing.  It plays well as an intermediate instrument, but can be unreliable (reliable for some and not for others). Mine showed up with a leak in the corner of a bellows fold as a new instrument, but it was light and comfortable.  I returned it. 

[Accordionne]

Thank you for your relevant information

[Tiposx]

I agree with PaulDa321 there could be many reasons why a top player chooses an "alternative" instrument such as this.

Free choice is an unlikely reason.

[Accordionne]

It is difficult to choose a concertina especially when we have too much marketing that suggests that such an instrument is the best in each category of musicians.

[Accordionne]

When you see Mícheál Ó Raghallaigh playing on a Phoenix, the temptation is there...lol

 

[fred v]

20 hours ago, Accordionne said:

Why would Jack Talty play on the Phoenix if it doesn't live up to the quality of a good concertina?

Am I naive... lol

This suggests that it would be a good intermediate instrument.

He was paid to play it.

[Accordionne]

Yes, that's for sure, but in my humble opinion, it doesn't reflect the reality of the instrument. Marketing question that confuses the true quality of the instrument...

[Oberon]

It's definitely a marketing deal. McNeela is a pretty aggressive advertiser and they often leave out pretty important details that tend to mislead folks into thinking they make most of all of the instruments they sell. 

 

Anyway, Caitlín Nic Gabhann did an ad with one of these as well. If someone wants to pay you some money to do a video demonstrating your offerings, it would make sense from a financial incentive perspective to do so. It doesn't mean that Talty or Nic Gabhann would play these boxes or have any reason to use one live.

Edited June 8, 2025 by Oberon

[Accordionne]

 

Merci Obéron, tu as tout à fait raison… depuis deux jours, j'ai changé de voie et je suis passé à un concertina vintage entièrement restaurée. J'ai un très bon ami, maître artisan français, qui a de très bons contacts dans le monde de l'accordéon.

J'oublie les concertinas bon marché. Un peu plus d'investissement, mais certainement plus rentable musicalement.

Edited June 8, 2025 by Accordionne

[Anglo-Irishman]

And, of course, a virtuoso with a McNeela would probably sound a lot better than me with a Jeffries ... 

[Lappy]

I saved up to buy a Troubadour concertina from Concertina Connection. I had to save up a lot more than the American dollar value because I’m stuck with canadian pesos……

I had it shipped to North Dakota. Then I brought it home to Winnipeg . I was absolutely ecstatic with it and still am today. I know it’s not top of the line but I don’t deserve top of the line . 1 Timothy 6:6 Godliness with contentment is great gain.