Closed My Facebook Account

[Randy Stein]

A couple weeks ago I closed my Facebook account. 

While it was a great way to keep in touch with old friends, family (including my crazy aunt), and the music community at large, it's content was becoming insipid and offensive. It's owner has added to the political divisiveness here in the US.

Unfortunately, there isn't another platform to take it's place. That said, I don't miss it. 

[Luke Hillman]

Welcome to the Faceless Brotherhood.

 

Who needs it when you've got concertina.net, anyway!

[Don Taylor]

10 hours ago, Luke Hillman said:

Welcome to the Faceless Brotherhood.

 

Who needs it when you've got concertina.net, anyway!

Now would be a good time to send Paul a donation to keep concertina.net alive.

[wes williams]

Political divisiveness applies pretty much world wide on this and other similar changes:

'Make America Grate Again'

[SIMON GABRIELOW]

Yes, stay with C.net instead..

Or that 'Youtube' alternative where you can pop videos on. It's up to the individual to put good stuff on ( doesn't always have to be pet cats chasing kitty toys!😊). And it is free ( so far). However if that certain rich so and so,( the one with the rediculous looking car design! ) Also takes that (y.tube).. over I will also finish with the set up.

 

 

 

[RAc]

Even though a number of people still do not understand that: There is nothing "free" in the software world. You pay with the disclosure of your privacy when you use "free" software. The legacy of Zuckerberg is that he has made an art of big data mining - figuratively writing, he strips you naked and makes money by selling your nude pictures to peeping toms. What's more, he makes you addicted to that so much that you end up recruiting others to do the same. Doesn't make it any better that he throws all morals overboard by selling hatred as "free speech."

 

Abhorrent and disgusting. It is A trace of hope to see more and more people realize that. Thumbs up, Randy.

[David Barnert]

7 hours ago, RAc said:

There is nothing "free" in the software world. You pay with the disclosure of your privacy when you use "free" software.

 

As they say, “If you aren’t paying for the product, you ARE the product.”

[wes williams]

8 hours ago, RAc said:

... There is nothing "free" in the software world. You pay with the disclosure of your privacy when you use "free" software. ...

 

Not quite true, please don't tar us all with the same brush. Many of us 'free' software and website designers don't do this. My 'unlimited' website costs me around £1.50 a week which is less than half the price of a cup of coffee at most high street shops. My software is written only to try to help folks with an interest in concertinas or 78rpm records, and that's my reward.

[David Barnert]

2 hours ago, wes williams said:

Not quite true, please don't tar us all with the same brush. Many of us 'free' software and website designers don't do this. My 'unlimited' website costs me around £1.50 a week which is less than half the price of a cup of coffee at most high street shops. My software is written only to try to help folks with an interest in concertinas or 78rpm records, and that's my reward.

 

Of course, and one might also point out concertina.net itself as a fine example of a useful site that encourages but does not demand support from its users.

[Roger Hare]

7 hours ago, wes williams said:

...My software is written only to try to help folks with an interest in concertinas or 78rpm records, and that's my reward...

And that (concertina) software is still available here...

[RAc]

8 hours ago, wes williams said:

Not quite true, please don't tar us all with the same brush. Many of us 'free' software and website designers don't do this. My 'unlimited' website costs me around £1.50 a week which is less than half the price of a cup of coffee at most high street shops. My software is written only to try to help folks with an interest in concertinas or 78rpm records, and that's my reward.

Of course you are right here, Wes, apologies. There is also Michael Eskin, Open source and other fine examples (I myself contribute to OS projects every once in a while).

 

I sort of implied "free software by commercial companies," where the "free" is part of a business model. Ironically, for many of those "bad sheep products," there is also a good sibling, for example Signal instead of WhatsApp, so the consumer does have a choice to remain clothed. Just like in the case of c.net, however, voluntary payment is of great help to keep that choice open.

[Ken_Coles]

Concertinas are our main topic here, folks. Politics and motives/modes on the internet are topics for other forums (fora?).

 

We do appreciate the reminder that donations to C.net are always welcome.

 

Ken

[RAc]

40 minutes ago, Ken_Coles said:

forums (fora?).

 

fori, I believe. 😉

 

Point taken (at least on my side), thx and apologies

[David Barnert]

51 minutes ago, Ken_Coles said:

forums (fora?)

10 minutes ago, RAc said:

fori, I believe. 😉

 

Nope, sorry.

 

Quote

The English plural forums is preferred to the Latin plural fora in everyday English usage.

 

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/forum

 

But yes, let’s get back to concertinas...

[caj]

I got on FB back when it was a literal "face book" for students at ivy league colleges, and the big controversy was that young people would overshare the things they were getting up to at parties at the eating clubs.

 

A few years later it was just aging high school alums and distant relatives sharing the kinds of things that aging high school alums and great aunts say to one another.  Basically Facebook became the "Reebok Mallwalkers" of the Internet, and sort of stayed that way.  I never found it to be a place I actually wanted to be.

 

I would much rather hang out on topic-dedicated forums, such as concertina.net, where interest and knowledge about a topic strongly accumulates, along with the people who really care about it.

[Michael Eskin]

I'm staying on Facebook.
 

I just focus on my own groups and the music-specific groups I participate in as well as interact with my friends. That's it.

Once you get into public posts and discussions, you might as well be on X as far as the level of awfulness you find, but it's been like that for a long time.

Beyond that, I just block the idiots.

As far as "sticking it to the man" thinking a boycott is somehow going to make any difference to the oligarchs, dream on.

 

They've never cared about any of us individually and never will.

Facebook has over 3 billion subscribers.

Leave, and a 100 more will replace you by tomorrow instead of 101.

Remember, if you're not paying, you're the product.

I knew that when I signed up, and I have zero expectation that somehow Facebook/X/Amazon will embrace the utopian vision some of those leaving seem to feel that they should. They don't and never will.

To me it's all a cost/benefit trade-off.

I'm willing to throw-up in my mouth a little in exchange for allowing me to have a robust free world-wide forum for the instruments, music, and other topics I'm interested in.
 

That it also makes it easy to communicate with my friends and family via text, photos, and videos is just a bonus. I can do that on other platforms, but it's the groups that keep me there.

[Randy Stein]

11 hours ago, Michael Eskin said:

"I'm willing to throw-up in my mouth a little in exchange for allowing me to have a robust free world-wide forum for the instruments, music, and other topics I'm interested in."

 

Ewww!

 

[SIMON GABRIELOW]

Personally speaking I am not that keen on the sites, like the FB being discussed here, having certain anoymous ways of people being able to remak upon an inidivduals posts. Symbols 'like'  - unlike'  -  and so on can create a misunderstanding between people of which there is [ as we can see in the news intrenationally ] often a great deal of bitterness resulting.