Edgley “New Model?”

[Frank Edgley]

The reed tongues are the same with the Heritage and New Model, but the frames are different. The New Model has rectangular frames with 2 concertina tongues (push and draw.) This makes construction easier, and eliminates the possibility of the reeds coming loose. There is noticible difference in tone between the New Model and the Hybrid instruments, with the New Model having a stronger fundamental tone with fewer upper harmonics i.e. concertina tone. It is the concertina used on the video with Matt Heumann. It is also the concertina I usually choose to play either at home or when playing out at gigs or sessions.

[PaulDa321]

Great playing and great tone on the video!  Thanks for your response. 

[Takayuki YAGI]

I had a chance to try my friend's New Model. New Model had a mellower tone but was super responsive.

 

This clip is the comparison using the same recorder settings. 

The first is the wooden ended New Model(2025) and the second is the metal ended Professional(Hybrid, 2005).

There was a clear tone difference between the two, but it wasn't apparent from the recording.

 

 

Edited January 29 by Takayuki YAGI
typo as always

[Parker135]

To me, the New Model sounds clearer than the Professional; maybe a tiny bit louder as well, but that could be differences in playing between the two.  It's interesting to get this impression when the New Model has the wooden ends vs the metal ended Professional.  Thanks for posting!

[PaulDa321]

Thanks for coming back to this thread to post!  The new model sounds fuller and louder to me, based on the recordings at least.  It's funny how much concertina tone can change in a recording--I always find that they sound a lot better with a decent dose of reverb too.

[Don Taylor]

The video compares the Professional (not the Heritage) to the New Model. 

 

The Professional uses accordion reeds whereas both the Heritage and the New Model use concertina reeds albeit in different types of reed shoes.

Edited January 30 by Don Taylor
Changed Vintage to Heritage - Mea Culpa

[Takayuki YAGI]

4 hours ago, Don Taylor said:

The video compares the Professional (not the Vintage) to the New Model. 

 

The Professional uses accordion reeds whereas both the Vintage and the New Model use concertina reeds albeit in different types of reed shoes.

It would have been nice to compare the Heritage and New Model. (I don't know if the Heritage model exists in Japan. )

I didn't record it, but there was one Olckers Concertina with concertina reeds, and its tone was different again from the New Model.

Edited January 30 by Takayuki YAGI
typo as always

[Matt Heumann]

I have played both the Heritage and the New Model sounds as good as any traditional English-reed instrument. The reed assembly is modified with traditional straight reed tongues and brass frames/shoes, but with 2 reeds per shoe & riveted tongue. The shoe is held in place by screws, not seated in slots. The main thing I heard when playing the new model was an almost absence of overtones.....a very clean sound. By holding the shoes in place with screws, it avoids the tradition problem of the shoes being too tight or too loose in a slot due to moisture and temperature changes. It also makes the construction of the reed pan easier without the need for routered slots.