Holdyourponies Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 I’m about to jump on a waiting list and this crossed my mind. There seems to be a lot of options regarding woods such as cocobolo, pau ferro, ebony, etc. is there an agreed upon standard? Should I just go with what is offered? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Lay Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 (edited) The exposed woods are primarily chosen for aesthetic reasons. You would not want a wood that is soft, susceptible to cracking or easily broken, of course. Beware that many colorful woods will darken or change color when exposed to sunlight UV. (You may not want to store your precious concertina on a window sill.) Some source trees are endangered and so are not legal to import, but your maker should be the one to deal with that issue. The popularity of "rosewood" in Asia has caused problems, such that most woods that might pass as rosewood are now threatened. Edited October 27 by David Lay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex_holden Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 If you are talking about the end board, I prefer to use laminated wood construction (essentially fancy plywood) because it will be more stable and less prone to cracking than a solid board. Solid ebony in particular often seems to suffer badly from cracks. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4to5to6 Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 (edited) I'm a big fan of Amboyna Buryl with ebony trim, dark brown bellows and gold hardware... just my preference. As Alex said, all wood ends should be laminated for structural stability. The Wheatstone Aeola came in ebony / ebonized, chrome, nickel plated nickel-silver, gold plated brass, amboyna, natural / plastic tortoiseshell and white eirinod. Rosewood is nice too. Am I missing any? Edited October 28 by 4to5to6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIMON GABRIELOW Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 I have used a lot of Sapelle mahogany on the boxes I have made over the years.It is a handsmoe uniform red veneer. I am lucky enough to have many sheets of the material to use ( bought years ago from reputable dealer in UK). Not a solid wood block of course so it s laminated or glued onto a ply wood base, with a good glue, and has lovely brown/red colour when polished or varnished. You have to be careful if doing finer sawing into plywood itself as it can splinter easily, and so use fine saw blade as you can find. ( For any scroll work)..assuming you do it mostly by hand). And keep any wood veneer away from direct bright sunlight .. Sapelle mahogany has uniform surface and no grain or complex pattern to have t match in veneer work, I have found. I have used it along with other veneers ..to make boxes to put instruments inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Lay Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 (edited) This is an Edgley "Professional Model" made in 2010 with Pau Ferro ends (sometimes called Bolivian Rosewood). You can see the laminations making up the end board. Looking closely, that thin line appears to be three layers and is possibly Baltic Birch plywood. Edited October 28 by David Lay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caroline Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 When I ordered my "Custom Clover" from Concertina Connection, William sent me the following, "I’ve enclosed photos of available woods at this moment. Let me know if there is one that you like. All the woods listed are filtering woods, meaning they reduce the brightness of the reeds, which is what you want with accordion type reeds." Not all of the woods pictured on their website were included in the listed choices. There were 4 walnuts of different shades, 2 padouks and "2 quilted maple billets on the way. Depending on humidity level, they should be available within a few weeks." Besides the Wakker bellows upgrade, the reason I chose the "Custom" Clover was more wood choices and the French polish, which looks beautiful! I ordered mine in quilted maple and I am more than happy with that decision. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Lay Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 On 10/28/2024 at 6:24 AM, SIMON GABRIELOW said: I have used a lot of Sapelle mahogany on the boxes I have made over the years.It is a handsmoe uniform red veneer. I am lucky enough to have many sheets of the material to use ( bought years ago from reputable dealer in UK). Not a solid wood block of course so it s laminated or glued onto a ply wood base, with a good glue, and has lovely brown/red colour when polished or varnished. You have to be careful if doing finer sawing into plywood itself as it can splinter easily, and so use fine saw blade as you can find. ( For any scroll work)..assuming you do it mostly by hand). And keep any wood veneer away from direct bright sunlight .. Sapelle mahogany has uniform surface and no grain or complex pattern to have t match in veneer work, I have found. I have used it along with other veneers ..to make boxes to put instruments inside. http://hobbithouseinc.com/personal/woodpics/sapele.htm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIMON GABRIELOW Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 (edited) Thanks for putting those pictures of Sapelle mahogany on that link. (David )..it is a lovely wood that has a fine texture and effect in light when turned about. I am using some currently to make for an instrument box ( to keep my two Chalumeau inside).. combined with Sycamore wood veneer( to add tonal contrast). If you are really wanting to go to town try Satin wood! A fantastic golden yellow, with satin surface. I am lining my box with that Satin wood veneer so when lid is removed .. that yellow wood will glow on the eyes🌝 All my veneers were purchased years back from reputable dealer. Edited October 29 by SIMON GABRIELOW 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDF Posted November 1 Share Posted November 1 As it happens to be sat beside me this is what satinwood looks like on the outside of a box. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIMON GABRIELOW Posted November 1 Share Posted November 1 Beautiful wood that's a great example with its lustrous surface. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genepinefield Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 (edited) A bit off topic. What do you think would be best wood to make a box to hold the reed pan in the bellows? I could buy the bellows separately on eBay, but I would need to remove and use the original reed pan box or make new one. Edited November 7 by genepinefield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex_holden Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 3 hours ago, genepinefield said: A bit off topic. What do you think would be best wood to make a box to hold the reed pan in the bellows? I could buy the bellows separately on eBay, but I would need to remove and use the original reed pan box or make new one. If you are talking about replacing the bellows on an existing instrument, it is generally easier to remove the old bellows and reuse the frames unless they are badly damaged. If the previous bellows were attached using PVA or something else that isn't water soluble, you may need to sand the old leather off using a linisher. When making new frames, I use a light and strong softwood like spruce. I pick and choose sections of wood that don't have any knots, splits, or other flaws. Traditional bellows frames have tapered walls: the wall is thicker on the edge that meets the bellows and thinner where it meets the action box. I find that it's important to size the ends of the pieces before gluing them together, because if you don't the end-grain spruce will soak up the glue and you get weak joints. Vintage instruments seem to usually have the joints reinforced by a single angled spline in each corner, but I prefer to fit several straight splines. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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