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Layout chart for a Jackie 30 button English Concertina, 1st Edition?


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I have an early Jackie tutor which I am sure is for the 1st edition and the layout in there is the same as your 2nd edition picture.  I would be very surprised if Wim changed layouts between the 1st and 2nd editions so I am wondering if you really have a genuine Jackie. 

 

The Chinese factory that made Jackies for Wim also sold their own version of the box and it looks identical apart from the Concertina Connection logo.

 

You could use a tuning app on a cell phone to tell you what notes are actually played so that you can make up your own chart.  If they do not conform to the standard EC positions then you might have to get it fixed. 

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1 hour ago, Don Taylor said:

I am wondering if you really have a genuine Jackie

My concertina has the Concertina Connection logo:

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1 hour ago, Don Taylor said:

I am sure is for the 1st edition and the layout in there is the same as your 2nd edition picture

1st edition:    30 keys, ranging from G below middle C to the second A above middle C.

2nd edition30 keys, ranging from G below middle C to the second C above middle C.
In the 1st edition, three notes are duplicated on both sides (G4, E5, G5)

 

1 hour ago, Don Taylor said:

You could use a tuning app on a cell phone to tell you what notes are actually played

Yes, I've already made my own chart, but I'd really like to find the original notation.

 

Thank you

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Interesting!

 

My tutor is clearly for the 2nd edition of the Jackie which has publication date of 2008.  It looks like there was an earlier edition from 2003 - maybe that was for 1st edition Jackie that you have.

 

Comparing the two different layouts it looks like Wim removed the D#5 on the LHS and added a C6.  Then on the RHS he removed G#5 and Ab4 to add Bb5 and B5.  This extends the range up a couple of notes at the expense of not being able to play in E - which would not be a hardship for most folks.  On your box I think that you can, subject to having enough range, play in Bb, F, C, G, D, A and E without having to use enharmonic notes on out of position buttons.  For most folks playing a Jackie then playing in F, C, G and D would be just fine.

 

I think that your layout is good for a student instrument.  Looking through my Jackie Tutor book I do not immediately see any tunes or exercises that you could not play on your box.

 

My only  suggestion is to stagger the columns of your layout diagrams to better match the button layout - like the 2nd edition layout charts that you linked to in your earlier post: https://www.concertinaconnection.com/jackie layout.htm

 

Otherwise, I think that you are good to go using your own diagrams.

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