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I moved this from another thread - the discussion of this concertina wasn't relevant to that thread.

 

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have this Jones concertina in my possession - it's in a very sorry state.

What I see is that it appears to have the same range as the Webb concertina that Stephen Chambers posted here- as far as I know this instrument is not associated with the Brothers Webb.  Interestingly, there is a number 2 stamped into the reed pan - whether this is serial number is anyone's guess.

The bad news is that someone has glued in the reed pans, and it doesn't look like hide glue - removing those will be a challenge.

I'd like to restore this concertina to playing condition - if only to get a feel for how Jones' long scale reeds sound and play in an EC configuration.

 

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3 hours ago, HansQ said:

What is the essence of " Jones' long scale reeds" ? Have you measured the difference compared to most common reeds for similar instruments from other makers? I have read that Jones merketed "broad reeds" as a special feature and made from extra hard steel. Any signs of that? I have had an Anglo from Jones and it rather seemed to have softer (!) than common steel reeds and obviously a mellow brass-reed like tone.

Good point - I recall that Jones marketed 'broad reeds' and not long scale (I blame the Christmas sherry having addled my brain).

I should measure the reeds against an Aeola and/or New Model/Edeophone.

What's interesting about this 'tina is that the note range I believe is exactly the same as a guitar, but 1 octave higher - I need to verify this too at some point.

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I  have  come  across  Jones Broad Steel  reeds  on  several  of  his  anglos.  They  produced a very  nice tone  but  were  somewhat  slower  to  respond,  sure  it  was  not  much  but  it  felt  like  the  player  would  need to  hussle  along,  use  a little more  air pressure.

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I too have always associated Jones with a broad reed style, indeed my piccolo English system instrument is fitted with them. I cannot remember any Jones with a more conventional reed shape, certainly never a long series reed set.

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3 hours ago, HansQ said:

The guitar range ( or at least the E being lowest note)  is an interesting matter....and why not maybe an adaptation to the guitar stringing like the common EC treble got the G as the lowest note corresponding to the violin G string ??

The Brothers Webb used ECs with a similar range as the one exhibited here.  

Maybe Stephen Chambers can offer an insight into why they played instruments with a guitar range, but one octave higher.

Are there any other Jones ECs out there with this range I wonder.

I wish I knew more about my instrument - I can only speculate.

Somehow I also need to get the reed pans out - first I need to determine which glue has been used to glue them in.

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Steve, The bellows frame gaskets are already ruined, so sacrifice them. Grind an old hacksaw blade and cut down the inside of the chamois leather. 

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