Luke Hillman Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) In the course of building Anglo Piano and exploring keyboard designs for my own needs, I'm constantly collecting and transcribing Anglo layouts. I figured I'd list them here so others can make use of them. I find it's extremely helpful to be able to view all these layouts in a standardized format that's also interactive; maybe you do too. Notes: Anglo Piano has several "standard" layouts built-in, which aren't listed here. The layouts below are not stored on Anglo Piano, but rather are encoded in the links themselves. Anyone can design or transcribe their own layout and get a link to share here (and you're encouraged to!). I have collected these layouts from various sources. If you spot an error, tell me, and I'll fix it (or you can send me a link to a corrected layout). You can transpose a layout into any tuning using the layout editor. As of now, I don't have a way to support different temperaments. Anglo Layouts 1-19 buttons Jones mini piccolo 10b C | source AC Norman Mini D 13b | source AC Norman Mini C 13b | source 20 buttons Maskandi/Squashbox 20b Eb/Bb (via Qadasi) | source 21-29 buttons Edgley/Herrington 24b C/G | source Jones 26b CG for Salvation Army | source Henry Harley 26b C/G | source 30-37 buttons Kensington 30b C/G | source David Fabre's 30b G/D | source Dave Weinstein's G/D "Drop D" 31b | source Doug Anderson's 31b G/D Jeffries | source David Fabre's 32b Bb/F | source Chris Ghent's 32b C/G | source Wang Guoping (Wang Feng) 33b C/B | source Sean Wahl's 35b C/G | source: personal correspondence Clive Thorn's 36b Jeffries/Crabb | source David Fabre's E. Pariselle 37b C/G "Levitina" | source 38-39 buttons (mostly Jeffries variants) Adrian Brown's 38b C/G Jeffries | source Jody Kruskal's 38b G/D Jeffries | source John Hazlehurst's 38b C/G/D | source Brownified Jeffstone and Pruned Wheatstone | source Morgana's Friend's 38b G/D | source Andrew Collins' 39b C/G | source 40 buttons (mostly Wheatstone variants) Crabb C/G 40b | source David Fabre's 40b C/G | source Howard Jones' 40b C/G | source 41+ buttons Jeffries C/G 45b | source Cohen Braithwaite-Kilcoyne's CG Jeffries 45b | source Non-Anglo layouts Maybe useful to someone, but not relevant to this thread; including here just for fun. Wicki/Hayden 46 Crane 48 | source Maccann 46 | source Bandoneon 1 Bandoneon 2 | source Chemnitzer | source, via David Carlsfelder | source, via David D/G 2.4-row, 12 bass melodeon (my ideal layout for a club-style melodeon. Based on Paul Young's) That's all for now; I'll add to this thread when I've got more. Please feel free to add your own. Edited June 26 by Luke Hillman Fixed a typo 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david fabre Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) Many thanks, Luke ! I think this is extremely useful, and I hope the list will keep on increasing as you collect more layouts (or as users transcribe their own ones since it is extremely easy to do so with your app) I think it is also a good idea to point to the "source" where the various layouts have been already discussed, in order to keep this thread as a readable database. Edited November 27, 2023 by david fabre 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttonon Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Luke, that's quite an accomplishment. Thanks. My interest in concertinas is mainly theoretical and it gives me a good reference. I see you allow the user to edit the layouts, then save the edit. What does the edit effect, the layout on the website that you made or a layout that's private to the user? My feeling is that you don't want the public to make permanent changes to your website. I do suggest that you add a row just below the piano keyboard that gives the frequencies of the notes, for equal temperament. It might have to be a double row to include all the white and black keys. A format with one decimal place resolution would be fine. Such a row would help much with theoretical discussions. In any event, congratulations on a wonderful contribution. Best, Tom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Hillman Posted November 27, 2023 Author Share Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) Hi Tom, if you edit a layout on Anglo Piano, it gets stored locally, for your eyes only—in most browsers, it will persist until you clear your browsing data. If you want to share an edit, click "get link" under the layout dropdown. Noted about the frequency display. Right now the tool assumes 12 tone equal temperament, A4=440 Hz. Edited November 27, 2023 by Luke Hillman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theo Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 I think I’ll find this very useful for describing instruments for sale. Would you like use elsewhere to be credited? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Hillman Posted November 27, 2023 Author Share Posted November 27, 2023 Hi Theo, thanks for asking. No need to credit me. I've got my info in the "about" section in case anyone's curious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Mellish Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 As the owner of two variants on Wheatstone 40-key layout I could contribute those, but how do I do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Hillman Posted November 28, 2023 Author Share Posted November 28, 2023 Hi Richard, easiest way is to start with an existing 40b layout and customize it: Select "CG Wheatstone 40" (or another tuning if more convenient) click "edit layout" make your changes click "save" click "get link" paste that link here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leah Velleman Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 I had a shot at entering this 24-button layout that's been discussed here a few times, and I think it worked out okay — here's the link. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Hillman Posted November 28, 2023 Author Share Posted November 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, Leah Velleman said: I had a shot at entering this 24-button layout that's been discussed here a few times, and I think it worked out okay — here's the link. Ooh, nice one. Added to the top post. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Thorne Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Here's my 36 key Jeffries (probably built by Crabb). Note: when I bought it the "drone" button had nothing on it but had been novelty sounds, so I got Colin Dipper to convert it to notes. The pull C and push Bb being my choice. Also the top (ie nearest the thumb) righthand C row button has a top Eb on the Pull, which my teacher (JK) suggested I changed to a D5 on the pull, as it would be far more use (He was right). Also note that it is only 51/2" across, and is pretty full, which may explain why it is a 36 key. https://anglopiano.com/?_30_eFHhJKNMmn_170_QPPQsSVtTX._15_cGGIijkLMNlJ_90_rvoOqpSRuTwURq.IHjlMNOopqLm_140_poSrUTvuYwtx._375_ni&title=Clive's 36 Key Jeffries (/Crabb) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Hillman Posted November 28, 2023 Author Share Posted November 28, 2023 @Clive Thorne Thanks! I've added it to the list. I think you meant pull D6 (rather than D5)? I definitely wish I had one of those. It's one of the things I'm most looking forward to in my next instrument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Thorne Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 6 minutes ago, Luke Hillman said: @Clive Thorne Thanks! I've added it to the list. I think you meant pull D6 (rather than D5)? I definitely wish I had one of those. It's one of the things I'm most looking forward to in my next instrument. Thanks, Yes, you are correct - D6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takayuki YAGI Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 This is my Jones miniature in C (piccolo range). Greg Jowaisas gave me a memo but left accidental was reversed. Below is from actual instrument. https://anglopiano.com/?opqRSTst_80_VWuUwvYX._410_xZ21&title=Jones Mini C 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takayuki YAGI Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 And Norman mini in C. https://anglopiano.com/?_90_Jl_260_Pr_60_Vv.HGGIijkLMN_80_oOqpSRuTwU&title=Norman Mini C 13 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david fabre Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 Nice to see the list increasing ! Especially interested to see the miniatures. Takayugi, I see your choices for the Norman are different from mine but make sense ; indeed I remember Andrew said he made a dozen of these (probably more now) and each of them had a different layout. Do you have a picture or a sound file of the picolo Jones ? I'd be curious to see/hear it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takayuki YAGI Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, david fabre said: Do you have a picture or a sound file of the picolo Jones ? I'd be curious to see/hear it. Here is a left hand side photo. 5th button (centre) is an air button. Right hand side photo for size comparison. And here is a sample clip. Edited November 29, 2023 by Takayuki YAGI add right hand side photo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david fabre Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 very nice ! and truely mini Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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