LilaMable Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 I've heard rumors that somebody took over the Stagi business and has improved their quality. Has anybody confirmed this? Specifically the English system? (For context, I'm a youth beginner looking into a Stagi Gremlin 48 button for $500.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Hare Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 (edited) There's a thread here which may help answer your question - at least partially - it jumps about a bit. It does however, link to a video describing what goes on, which was made by a visitor to the factory... The company concerned is called ConcertineItalia. The models are described but have model numbers, rather than names, so it's not clear which (if any) is the 'Gremlin'. In a spirit of 'even-handedness', the spec' for the A-30 looks reasonable, but I guess all the usual caveats apply when considering purchasing one of these low-ish end concertinas - wherever they are made... Edited September 3, 2023 by lachenal74693 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIMON GABRIELOW Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 (edited) I watched the video described here, which I think was made by one of the c.net people? And found it very interesting. It seems two delightful ladies have bought most of the equipment from the old manufacturer, and are now producing the concertinas🌝 I do not know myself how they are to say; but all I can say it was lovely setting in Italy! I have my one and only Hohner branded Anglo 30 key instrument, which I bought in 1999 ( in UK).. and later on found it was made in Italy by the Brunner Musica ( now no longer trading) and possibly Stagi. I have been happy with my instrument, and it has done me well over two decades, you can get teething problems .. but once overcome I find ( personally) the steel reed strong tone very pleasing. But there again I have only ever used this concertina of mine🌝. Steel reeds, resin plastic buttons, reeds mounted on wooden blocks,with felt valve flap thingies . The plastic is small traditional size buttons and 'plastic' I use generally in term ( as i see no reason not to use it myself ( my own thoughts) How they are now I do not know.. but best of luck with your decision. You can hear my own Hohner (Stagi made) on my YouTube channel to get idea of sound and action; type in my name (Simon Gabrielow ,) and go to videos to see?🌝🌝 Note; I am NOT a paid brand ambassador for the company😊😊 Edited September 3, 2023 by SIMON GABRIELOW Silly phone need microscope to see it!; 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leah Velleman Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 If you do get one from them, please report back and let us know how you like it! I don't think we've heard from anyone who's bought from them since the new owners took over -- all I remember seeing here is speculation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveRo Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 There have been plenty of posts about their single Hayden model, but I don't recall comments about their other models - but I may not have noticed. For example my post in this thread. * But like me, buyers of these instruments will mostly be beginners with nothing to compare them with. I replaced mine because it was too heavy, not because of perceived poor quality. And are rebadged ones of the same quality? * The OP in that thread runs Red Cow Music in the UK. I think he is claiming that Concertine Italia's quality control is better than it was. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIMON GABRIELOW Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 (edited) I do not know how heavy or light the other makes are . But my instrument is more than light enough to hold easily in just one hand! And I am never aware of it being an issue. As for cheap, and beginners, I also believe that you can get a lot with a little less sometimes🌝 As I said recently elsewhere ..you can create a masterpiece with but a pencil if need be ( and do not need a full set of paints)🌝🌝 Edited September 3, 2023 by SIMON GABRIELOW Silly phone pad again! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Morrison Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 The Stagi concertina’s are vastly improved and they needed to be. Here at Red Cow Music we stopped stocking Stagi for a few years. They were out of tune and badly made. Now they are quite excellent concertinas well made in tune and we get good support from Concertine Italia. So if you want a good quality Italian built concertina you will not go wrong with Stagi. Steve Morrison (Red Cow Music) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Morrison Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 On 9/3/2023 at 8:41 PM, DaveRo said: There have been plenty of posts about their single Hayden model, but I don't recall comments about their other models - but I may not have noticed. For example my post in this thread. * But like me, buyers of these instruments will mostly be beginners with nothing to compare them with. I replaced mine because it was too heavy, not because of perceived poor quality. And are rebadged ones of the same quality? * The OP in that thread runs Red Cow Music in the UK. I think he is claiming that Concertine Italia's quality control is better than it was. I am not claiming just stating that the quality is now excellent. steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilaMable Posted November 13, 2023 Author Share Posted November 13, 2023 (edited) On 11/11/2023 at 10:26 AM, Steve Morrison said: The Stagi concertina’s are vastly improved and they needed to be. Here at Red Cow Music we stopped stocking Stagi for a few years. They were out of tune and badly made. Now they are quite excellent concertinas well made in tune and we get good support from Concertine Italia. So if you want a good quality Italian built concertina you will not go wrong with Stagi. Steve Morrison (Red Cow Music) Steve, I'm very glad to hear this! I think I will go for one of these. Thank you so much for the feedback! Edited November 13, 2023 by pioneerbird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Morrison Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 I hope you enjoy it. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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