1/4-comma meantone calculation for Anglos

[Little John]

1 hour ago, 4to5to6 said:

Here are the offsets for 1/4 comma mean tone:

 

The chart shown doesn't indicate the note names. If this is based an a reference of A, as is stated, then:

 

2 (m2, -24 cents) is A#. A better choice might be Bb (+17.1 cents)

7 (T, -20.5 cents) is D#. Probably a good choice but if you prefer Eb it would be +20.5 cents.

9 (m6, -27.4 cents) is E#. A better choice would be F (+13.7 cents)

 

There's a danger in trusting the computer to do what you want!

[4to5to6]

43 minutes ago, Little John said:

 

The chart shown doesn't indicate the note names. If this is based an a reference of A, as is stated, then:

 

2 (m2, -24 cents) is A#. A better choice might be Bb (+17.1 cents)

7 (T, -20.5 cents) is D#. Probably a good choice but if you prefer Eb it would be +20.5 cents.

9 (m6, -27.4 cents) is E#. A better choice would be F (+13.7 cents)

 

There's a danger in trusting the computer to do what you want!

 

The reference note can be changed but I usually leave A4 at 440Hz as a reference to tune to other instruments.

 

Interesting… I will email them and see what they say.  It is easy to modify the offset table or even create a new User temperament.

 

I learned to count beats when I tuned pianos many years ago but now just use a “computer” tuner.  Sad but true. 😭 

 

I will try your suggestions and listen to them.  The ap has a function to do this.  What would you suggest for the enharmonics Eb/D# and Ab/G# in cents?

 

I have a piccolo English coming today or tomorrow that’s in original C517.3 / A435 Continental pitch that needs to be raised slightly and may just do it in 1/4 comma meantone for fun.

 

Thanks.

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Edited October 2, 2024 by 4to5to6

[4to5to6]

I emailed TonalEnergy… I will let you know what they say.

 

Here’s an Interesting YouTube video I just found while cruising their website... good demonstration of Just vs. ET.

 

 

Shameless promotion for their app of course (nice grin) but good demo.  

 

I have absolutely no connection with these guys; I just found out about them about a week ago and have been raving about their ap ever since. Just found out they also have an Apple/Windows version as well.

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Edited October 2, 2024 by 4to5to6

[Little John]

On 10/2/2024 at 7:27 PM, 4to5to6 said:

What would you suggest for the enharmonics Eb/D# and Ab/G# in cents?

 

I would suggest D# and G#, for two reasons. Most players nowadays prefer the "sharp" keys over the "flat" keys. The Irish even refer to a C/G Anglo as a "D" instrument, because that's the key it's most commonly played in. Secondly, an Eb in a B major chord sounds dreadful, but D# in a C minor chord sounds acceptable. D# crops up a lot in Em tunes.

[Richard Mellish]

On 10/2/2024 at 7:54 PM, 4to5to6 said:

I emailed TonalEnergy… I will let you know what they say.

 

Here’s an Interesting YouTube video I just found while cruising their website... good demonstration of Just vs. ET.

 

 

Shameless promotion for their app of course (nice grin) but good demo.  

 

I have absolutely no connection with these guys; I just found out about them about a week ago and have been raving about their ap ever since. Just found out they also have an Apple/Windows version as well.

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Unwatchable, as far as I am concerned, because of the extraneous clicking on the soundtrack.