Chris Ghent Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 (edited) This concertina has historical significance in Australia. Its provenance is obscure, but I expect it is basically at its core made by one of the big makers but with add-ons. Serial number 15,569 would seem to confirm this but there are unusual things about it. The temptation is to think Lachenal but the riveted action is uncharacteristic and the end design is like no other Lachenal I have seen. The reeds seem wide to me, suggesting Jones? The serial is punched in without ink. There are batch numbers. The button holes in the end are bushed. There are the signs of threaded captive nuts for the straps. Does anyone spot maker clues for any part of this concertina. There was a person a few years ago who charted the different styles of action by maker but I can not find reference to his findings online. Can anyone direct me to his work? Sorry I can't seem to get control over rotation of the images. Whatever I do they come out like this. TIA Chris Edited January 14, 2023 by Chris Ghent Reason for edit: ineptitude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takayuki YAGI Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 The fretwork looks like Jones to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrP Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Typeface of the digits in the the stamped-into-the-soundboard number looks like those on one of my Jones instruments. Fretwork looks like Jones-type fretwork, as do the arms & mechanisms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex_holden Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 7 hours ago, Chris Ghent said: There was a person a few years ago who charted the different styles of action by maker but I can not find reference to his findings online. Can anyone direct me to his work? http://www.scatesconcertinas.com/pdf/RE ACTIONS - thinking inside the box 1.pdf I also would have guessed Jones. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Acott Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 It is a Jones, with a lot of standard maker features. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Helmore Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Totally agree with all above. Have internal pics of several other Jones if you’re interested in seeing comparisons Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d.elliott Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 The action pivot pots are definitely Jones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Ghent Posted January 14, 2023 Author Share Posted January 14, 2023 Thanks for the help with the ID, I can now see that it is clearly a Jones. I have a couple of follow up questions but I think I might start another thread as the title of this one wouldn't suit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Helmore Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Heres a comparison with a reedpan of a Jones I worked on a number of years ago. The serial number stamping and 'broad steel reeds' are the giveaway.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malcolm clapp Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 Chris, you mention the instrument in question has some historical significance in Australia. I'd be interested to hear just what the historical significance is, but I understand if your research is on-going and you may not wish to reveal the results currently. Just an observation, but quite a few music shops advertised Lachenal instruments in newspapers during the late C19th and early C20th, and one or two mention Wheatstone, as a search of Trove will show, but I can't recall seeing any early advertising for Jones' concertinas in Australian printed sources. A more detailed search may possibly reveal something.... (For the benefit of those outside of Australia, Trove is a web site containing digital Australian newspaper records. A bit like You Tube in that once you start browsing you can't stop until about 4 in the morning; high levels of self control required 🙂 ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Ghent Posted January 15, 2023 Author Share Posted January 15, 2023 Thank you David and everyone else, and Malcolm, yes that is the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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