JimLucas Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 The responses in Lemon's Topic regarding the identity or source for his tune led me to muse on just what it is we perceive or remember about tunes that makes us think they are "the same" or "different". Rather than try to answer the question, I've decided to put up some sound files of various candidates that were proposed, and let each of you make up your own mind as to how similar or different you think they are from each other. First, Lemon's tune, in the arrangement he posted: Lemon's "unknown" tune Next, the first few bars of Arthur Darley's, or "The Swedish Jig": Arthur's Then the first few bars of "Tomorrow Belongs to Me", as posted by David B. I find this has a similar contour, but a different modality, so I wouldn't think of even this much as being "the same". Tomorrow... David also wrote out "Down by the Brazos", so here it is. Here I can see that small pieces seem to match, though the tune as a whole is different. Of course, I think this supports what I said about the same bits and pieces showing up in many tunes. Down by the Brazos "Sidhe Bheag, Sidhe Mhor" is, as John realized when he refreshed his memory, not all that similar. But do you see characteristics in it which might have led him to remember it that way? Sidhe Bheag, Sidhe Mhor (just the first bit) Then there's "Maguire-Patterson", suggested by two different persons. It does start out similarly, but further comparisons require cutting and pasting, and there are major differences. Listening the the sound file Rich M. provided did jog my own memory, reminding me of an Australian sailor's song, "Little Fish", or "Yea Ho, Little Fishy". Here's the first verse. Little Fish And to show you just how "Maguire-Patterson" reminded me of "Little Fish", I reproduce here a copy of Rich's mp3 file of the latter... not the whole thing, but with much of it excised. I want to emphasize that nothing has been rearranged. It's only that pieces have been cut out, and the parts that were kept pushed up against each other. Maguire-Patterson , compressed So I'm curious to hear other people's thoughts as to what makes tune (or anything, I suppose) "similar" or "different". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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