luli Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 (edited) this chart is different from the common chart。 Edited November 10, 2022 by luli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wild Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Yes these are the lyrics. In the newsvendors call, "ab-berabb", Brian Hayden related that he could not make out exactly what the newsvendor was saying, and this was the nearest phonetic representation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveRo Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Or are you asking about the curious treble clef? It's like that throughout the book. Each double stave seems to be identical. Probably only Brian will know why it appears like that. My guess is that a Roneo Machine was involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wild Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 i'm not sure why it appeared visually just that way, but it is meant as a treble clef symbol. In the one note tune, the notes in the 2nd part are all G. On the left hand of a duet system, these would sound an octave lower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Barnert Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 1 hour ago, DaveRo said: My guess is that a Roneo Machine was involved. I just looked it up. In the US we called them mimeograph machines. When I was in elementary school in the 1960s it was the only way to distribute multiple copies of a document to the whole class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Taylor Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, DaveRo said: Probably only Brian will know why it appears like that. My guess is that a Roneo Machine was involved Learning and Playing WW: I've heard you are writing a Tutor. BH: I've got a whole load of stuff in a tune book, for my workshops. They were first written for Witney. I did this beginners course and I didn't know what was going to come up so I wrote out all the Duet systems, a basic keyboard diagram and chord diagrams for each, and it was Cranes, Maccanns and Haydens. No Jeffries turned up. WW: All your workshop notes are type set, but I thought you didn't have a computer? BH: I've got a word processor - an ancient Amstrad PCW. I've got a little program that allows you to alter some of the letters into shapes, and by altering only 16 letters I can write music. I was very proud of it when I first did it, about fifteen years ago, as the music I'd seen from computers was very jagged compared to that. (from: http://www.concertina.com/williams/hayden-chat/index.htm) Then probably printed on a Roneo/Mimeograph/Gestetner master. Somewhere else, Brian mentions his use of what he called the baritone clef in his tunes - the treble clef but sounding an octave lower. I think that we mostly call this the treble-octave clef now. Whatever the name, that is what is intended for the lower staff in the diagrams in the tutor. Edited November 10, 2022 by Don Taylor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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