TinkerPhil Posted October 23, 2022 Posted October 23, 2022 I bought myself a second hand "Concertina Connection" "Jackie" Concertina But I am really struggling to understand the keys! I've had a look at the various free to download "English" books but their images are all for concertinas with more keys and I cannot map them onto mine Does anyone have an image of this concertina detailing the keys? Please help as I am trying to learn "Happy birthday" (don't ask!) and no matter where I start and (listen) for the right notes I cannot finish and it is beginning to cause family distress 🙂 The closest I get is if I start on the bottom key on row 2 on the right hand side (I think this is a bottom "C") - but this means I do not have the lowest note at the end of the song - lol very infuriating
alex_holden Posted October 23, 2022 Posted October 23, 2022 http://www.concertinaconnection.com/jackie layout.htm
David Barnert Posted October 23, 2022 Posted October 23, 2022 From the website: Quote Tutor The instrument comes with an easy to understand 47 page tutor, especially written for this instrument. It will teach the basics of playing concertina, music notation, rhythm, music theory, etc.. The tutor is suitable for both self study and for use in formal lessons (e.g. music schools, private instruction, etc.). Find out if the person you bought it from has this tutor and can send it to you. Otherwise get in touch with Concertina Connection and ask if they can send you one. You may find it of great help.
TinkerPhil Posted October 23, 2022 Author Posted October 23, 2022 9 hours ago, alex_holden said: http://www.concertinaconnection.com/jackie layout.htm I just feel guilty now! Thank you! I will go see if that improves my rendition of "Happy Birthday" (I should now have the notes if not the skill) 8 hours ago, David Barnert said: From the website: Find out if the person you bought it from has this tutor and can send it to you. Otherwise get in touch with Concertina Connection and ask if they can send you one. You may find it of great help. LOL - That is exactly what I first tried - but it had been an unwanted gift and the recipient returned it to the giver without the tutor. I approached Concertina Connection and they told me it was copyrighted and that I would need to pay around £40 to get a copy shipped to the UK - being the skin-flint I am (at least whilst I decide if I am a concertina player or not) that is when I went to the internet (not very well as it seems above!) for free advice Thanks both for your very quick responses! Phil
TinkerPhil Posted October 23, 2022 Author Posted October 23, 2022 LOL - I thought an English concertina had all the "on the line " notes on one side and all "between the line" notes on the other - perhaps I will not be able to teach myself! 🤪
Roberta Kogut Posted October 23, 2022 Posted October 23, 2022 It does, but as I explain it to people, it's like playing a piano with one hand on top of the other. It takes a while to work the system into the brain. Then one day, voila! Good luck! Don't give up!
David Barnert Posted October 23, 2022 Posted October 23, 2022 3 hours ago, TinkerPhil said: LOL - I thought an English concertina had all the "on the line " notes on one side and all "between the line" notes on the other - perhaps I will not be able to teach myself! 🤪 13 minutes ago, Roberta Kogut said: It does, but as I explain it to people, it's like playing a piano with one hand on top of the other. It takes a while to work the system into the brain. Then one day, voila! Good luck! Don't give up! I think he’s referring to the fact that the linked layout diagram is of such poor resolution that many of the staff lines are missing.
TinkerPhil Posted October 24, 2022 Author Posted October 24, 2022 8 hours ago, David Barnert said: I think he’s referring to the fact that the linked layout diagram is of such poor resolution that many of the staff lines are missing. Ah! I wish that was my excuse - though I am struggling to work out the notes from it, I will make the picture work The problem is I thought once one note was on a line (eg A) all the others were too - Doh! Only last night did I realise that with 7 notes they would have to swap in the next octave!! LOL - I spent hours reading the first 5 pages of music theory at the start of the Salvation Army's how to play the english concertina worrying that I would never be able to play a demisemiquaver - but it failed to tell me that quite important part LOL - I have dabbled at music for years and I -never- ever thought about it!
SIMON GABRIELOW Posted October 24, 2022 Posted October 24, 2022 (edited) I have to say even though I use a different system (Anglo 30 key).. that diagram linked to showing image of Jackie layout is very hard to make our ( at least where the notes relate to)! And will certainly be of little encouragement to learning the instrument. One note looks more like it may be middle C but is named as another note altogether!🤔 Edited October 24, 2022 by SIMON GABRIELOW
Roger Hare Posted November 14, 2022 Posted November 14, 2022 (edited) On 10/24/2022 at 9:03 AM, TinkerPhil said: ...I spent hours reading the first 5 pages of music theory at the start of the Salvation Army's how to play the english concertina worrying that I would never be able to play a demisemiquaver... I don't look here every day, and I missed this first time around - I only clocked it when I saw the Festive Learning thread, and had a look back... I don't know if they tell you how to play a demisemiquaver, but there are a couple of other, more recent English tutors available on-line - they may suit you better? From Alistair Anderson and Frank Butler. Edited November 14, 2022 by lachenal74693
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