4to5to6 Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 (edited) What is the precise definition of a Baritone English concertina? One octave lower with finger switched from left to right? Middle C on the RH side? 48B Treble Range similar to a violin, 3-1/2 octaves, G to C. Middle C is on the LH side. 56 Tenor Treble Same as the treble but a full four octaves C to C, going further down to one octave below middle C. Middle C is on the LH side. 48B Baritone: I have a Lachenal 48B with the exact same fingering as a treble but transposed one octave lower and understand this is a typical “Baritone”. It is great for playing low notes as you don’t have to learn any new fingering… just play it like you would a treble. It’s tricky however if you want to play the regular treble range as you have to mirror image the fingering to go up an octave. Middle C is changed to the RH side. Then there are the Wheatstone Baritone Trebles: Model 14 - 56B, G to G Model 15 - 62B, G to C Model 16 - 64B, F to C The price lists call these Baritone Trebles but I’m not sure what side the middle C is on. I was just lent a newer 1955 model 12E with 64B, F to C for the weekend. The fingering is not switch side to side on this one so it is exactly like playing a Tenor Treble but just continues down to a low F in the bass range. Middle C is on the LH side. Would this then be called a Treble Baritone? I am also borrowing a 64B 6-sided Wheatstone stretched bass that only plays unidirectional on the push. It goes further down all the way to a low bass C and all the way up to a high G, the range of a Tenor instrument. This started the definition discussion again as the middle C is on the RH side just as a Baritone! So would this instrument then be called a Baritone Bass? …an extended Baritone Bass? Maybe a Baritone Bass Tenor? Does the swapping of middle C to the other side define it as a Baritone and trump the other titles? This instrument is in the missing ledger period so I don’t have a model number. This has to have been discussed before but I can’t quickly find a specific discussion on it. Unfortunately, the price lists give the instrument ranges but not which side middle C is on. What is the precise definition of a Baritone concertina? Edited June 5, 2022 by 4to5to6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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