Theo Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 6 hours ago, malcolm clapp said: What Theo said. I did suggest this and other comparatively simple reasons for the lack of volume some weeks ago, but these ideas seems to have been dismissed in favour of more complex (and possibly insurmountable) causes, though an interesting thread has nevertheless resulted..... 🙂 And the valves in the photos do look quite "chunky" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shayfogs Posted June 27, 2022 Author Share Posted June 27, 2022 Hi Malcolm and Theo. I used Columbia organ leather which is very supple. It's not as thin as I'd like but despite that some of the smaller reeds sound well. I'm now trying out a slightly higher setting on the reeds which seems better suited to the chambers and produces a better sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Chambers Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 It sounds like a very interesting instrument Shay, presumably made in order to solve the problem of the tone difference between the reeds on the inside row, compared with the rest of the instrument, from the more normal (parallel-chambered) Jeffries reed-pans. Are you coming to Miltown, and will you have it with you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shayfogs Posted July 12, 2022 Author Share Posted July 12, 2022 Hi Stephen, I'm afraid I only got this after coming back from Milltown. I'll bring it the next time if you let me know what music weekend you'll be at where I might be too. Or if you're in Dublin anytime give me a shout. Shay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shayfogs Posted September 12, 2022 Author Share Posted September 12, 2022 Having relined the reedpan and adjusted the reeds I still wasn't completely happy with the response. When I took out the reedpan again to look at it I checked it on a piece of glass to check the leather seals were flush with the surface. They weren't. So I turned it over and noticed a slight rocking, Yes the reedpan was slightly warped. I removed the seals and sanded the top of the reedpan until the rocking ceased. I relined it again and lo and behold the response was so much better. It also explained why the LH side was ok, since it was not warped. So my original thought that the radial reedpan affected the sound was incorrect. I'm sorry I misled you all with this supposition. I should have checked for warping in the first instance I'd like to thank you all for your comments which were helpful in their own right. I presume Jeffries didn't stick with the radial reedpan as it was more complicated to make. He tended to favour the more straightforward methods, to save time and cost, Hence the parallell reedpans, the rectangular valves and the strap screws without an insert. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Wooff Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Ah Ha Shay, the "Level Playing Field" makes all the difference ! So much detriment to tone and efficiency in concertinas can come from small internal leaks. Glad you have that sorted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shayfogs Posted September 13, 2022 Author Share Posted September 13, 2022 Very well put Geoff. The heavy bellows does continue to make a difference especially as I have a lighter style of playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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