RosesOnMyTable Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 I was given an old Scholer concertina and was fascinated but the bellows are leaky. It was recommended a Rochelle would be a good place to start learning. I am in the San Francisco Bay Area, USA and would like to spend around $400. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lachenal74693 Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 10 hours ago, RosesOnMyTable said: I was given an old Scholer concertina and was fascinated but the bellows are leaky... You may be able to bring the Scholer 'back from the dead' and then use it till you can afford something better than one of these $400 instruments. There is a series of 4 videos on Youtube about the workings of these instruments: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbPw0yR19zM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88yCVla_Djg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uvs4-ANFuq8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anBj1hibG0o Offhand, I can't remember if they discuss fixing the bellows, but you might be lucky. I think the Rochelle is larger than 'standard size'. This may be a problem (it was for me when I tried a CC English). If you are going to go for one of these $400 models, shop around a bit would be my advice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjolnir Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 If you're in the SF area, Smythe's Accordion Center in Oakland should have a Rochelle you can try out. It's a pretty good instrument for the price, and if you ever decide to upgrade further, I believe Concertina Connection, who makes them, has a trade-in policy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken_Coles Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 All true, except my impression is the Rochelle trade-in policy (at both C Connection and Button Box) is they will trade in instruments originally bought from their store - not interchangeable among businesses SFAIK. Ken 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TapTheForwardAssist Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Note that shortly after you, a member in Wisconsin posted a Swan 30b Anglo for $600, if your budget can flex a bit to get something significantly nicer than you first intended: https://www.concertina.net/forums/index.php?/topic/23638-mcneela-swan-concertina-cg/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RosesOnMyTable Posted February 21, 2021 Author Share Posted February 21, 2021 Hey all, I went to Smythe's up in Oakland and he was a swell guy. I bought the last Rochelle he had and he took my Scholer as a trade in. I'm very happy to get started. As a side note, he said he is closing this shop and moving it to Pinole, CA. I appreciate all of your comments and suggestions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Hersh Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 On 2/20/2021 at 4:18 PM, Ken_Coles said: All true, except my impression is the Rochelle trade-in policy (at both C Connection and Button Box) is they will trade in instruments originally bought from their store - not interchangeable among businesses SFAIK. Ken Ken (and everyone else) - since I was emailing Wim Wakker anyway about the Rochelle 2, I asked him about this. His reply: "We do accept Concertina Connection brand concertinas as trade in when sold thru our dealers, and even when bought on the used market. We offer the MSRP as a credit for dealer instruments and a market based value for instruments bought on the used market." Daniel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lachenal74693 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 (edited) On 2/19/2021 at 5:59 AM, lachenal74693 said: ...If you are going to go for one of these $400 models, shop around a bit would be my advice. Well, since I posted the details of the Scholer videos, CC have announced the Rochelle-2 which with it's smaller size, looks like it might be a game-changer at this end of the market? CC are still a bit coy about describing the bellows. My personal opinion is that the bellows are the worst feature of many of these $400-$500 instruments, and I feel that the bellows are so important... Edited February 22, 2021 by lachenal74693 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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