Daniel Hersh Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 It's a pretty distressed concertina at https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ANTIQUE-VICTORIAN-MAHOGANY-CONCERTINA-FOR-REPAIR-RESTORATION/393088369781 . Am I right in thinking that this is a Jones based on the design of the wooden ends and the action as shown below? ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Takayuki YAGI Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 The fretwork reminds me of Jones too. But 7 buttons in a row looks unusual to me. In the photo above the 6th button has riveted action but 7th one (and air button) have hooked action. So this might be a result of a modification. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Peter Smith Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 (edited) It does look a bit like a Jones but somewhat different. I had a look in the concertina museum collection but couldn't find anything matching the concertina on Ebay. 7 hours ago, Takayuki YAGI said: The fretwork reminds me of Jones too. But 7 buttons in a row looks unusual to me. In the photo above the 6th button has riveted action but 7th one (and air button) have hooked action. So this might be a result of a modification. Looking at the fretwork pattern, it appears that a few buttons have been added to both ends, as you say. Looks like a 30 button Anglo with additions! From what I can see in the fretwork pictures, the levers in the main section of the ends are riveted action. That would suggest a better quality anglo but dreadfully abused! An interesting project for whoever wins it. Edited January 11 by Peter Smith Additional info Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Takayuki YAGI Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 It might be a 42-key chromatic anglo described in Jones' 1884 patent. http://www.concertina.com/jones/index.htm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel Hersh Posted January 12 Author Share Posted January 12 (edited) 5 hours ago, Takayuki YAGI said: It might be a 42-key chromatic anglo described in Jones' 1884 patent. http://www.concertina.com/jones/index.htm It's possible. There are good pics of one of those put up by Jim Lucas at http://www.nonce.dk/Jones-42/ . Edited January 12 by Daniel Hersh Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Peter Smith Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 It just happens that I own a 42 button Jones 'Perfect concertina' restored by Andrew Norman last year (& am thinking of selling it!). The concertina on Ebay measure 205mm across the face (flat to flat) according to the seller, whereas my Jones 42 button measures only 6.75 inches or 172mm across the flats. The fretwork is also quite different - see below. If the Ebay anglo is that large across the face, could it be a baritone or bass? Peter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nkgibbs Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 It’s certainly a weird beast. Did German makers ever use riveted posts? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
d.elliott Posted Monday at 05:46 PM Share Posted Monday at 05:46 PM I can see three different action designs, so the concertina has been seriously messed about with. Given the fretting etc. I would ask if this is a viable instrument for repair Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nkgibbs Posted Monday at 07:32 PM Share Posted Monday at 07:32 PM This weird (eg air button connecting to a reed!) beast has just been sold for £450! Please, if the new owner is on C.net, put us out of our misery and reveal what is inside it ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Oberon Posted yesterday at 04:32 PM Share Posted yesterday at 04:32 PM I would have assumed it was a Jones, too, as the fretwork seems similar to a number of their anglos. One of the rivet posts also has that keyhole shape that I've seen in Jones concertinas, but since this is a right Frankenstein, who knows whats original? The amount it sold for in this condition makes me wonder if someone knows something we don't. This jeffries here has simpler fretwork, could it be some bonkers jeffries? Probably not, but one has to tick all the boxes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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