John Trygve Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Hello, I’m looking for advice on what to purchase. I have a cheap 20 key anglo concertina, which I play from time to time, but I’ve played string instruments for a long time. For some time now, I’ve wanted a concertina with chromatics and to accompany singing. What are some recommendations for a first English concertina? I looked online at a 30 key baritone English concertina (“Jack”) from Concertina Connection. Would this be appropriate, given my situation? John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Trygve Posted July 21, 2020 Author Share Posted July 21, 2020 (edited) I should say, I'm willing to pay more for a box if it's an instrument that could still be used beyond "starter" status, or if it's something that could be worth a bit in a trade-up to something more expensive. Thank you. Edited July 21, 2020 by John Trygve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Taylor Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 If you want a baritone EC then your choices are limited. I had a Jack a few years back and I do remember liking its sound, but it is only a 30 button instrument so it might not be as flexible as you would like. The only other readily available baritone ECs that I know of are made by the Button Box. They make a 37 key Albion and a 45 key Geordie, they are both about $2800. The Geordie would be more versatile, but it is a bigger, heavier box. You might be able to find a vintage baritone EC, but it is going to be really expensive. If you buy a Jack from the Button Box then I believe that you can trade it in later for an Albion or a Geordie, but check that before buying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Wooff Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 (edited) I am inclined to give the " buy a good vintage concertina" advice. These cheap starter models , made in China, with hardly a sufficient range of notes are worth next to nothing when trying to upgrade, which is a situation that can arise quickly after initial purchase. Yes , some dealers offer a trade-in to upgrade policy but those basic ' taster' models really don't offer a good concertina experience. A vintage concertina will hold its value, or at least they have been holding their value, going up in value faster than inflation to my knowledge these last 50 years... apart from a local hiccup or two caused by over inflated values and the odd economic crisis. You'll get 48 or more buttons with a vintage instrument ,fully chromatic, and you don't have to have a Baritone model for song accompaniment, though it would be nice. So, I suggest to 'invest and enjoy'... if you don't enjoy then re-sell it, usually at no loss. Edited July 21, 2020 by Geoff Wooff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saguaro_squeezer Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 I started on a Jack which I bought used. Quickly went to a Morse Albion. The price jump made me gulp but it was a far nicer instrument. Then I went to Crane duet. Oh well. +1 on the sentiment that a good box will hold its value. But baritones won't be cheap. And as you catch the free-reed flu, it will just cost you more. Hey, it's only money, right? Kind regards, Rod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Trygve Posted July 22, 2020 Author Share Posted July 22, 2020 Thank you every one. Very helpful advice. I think I'll be buying up from the get go. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Chambers Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 Baritones don't have to be expensive, especially if you're looking for one to sing to - in which case a 19th century brass-reeded one might be perfectly adequate for your needs. It's only when you get into professional-quality ones from the first half of the 20th century that they get expensive, but they're also loud and fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Trygve Posted July 24, 2020 Author Share Posted July 24, 2020 Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Mellish Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 (edited) If you've started off on a 20 button Anglo and become familiar with how that works, how about sticking with that system and trying a 30 button medium-quality one? That's how I started and I eventually progressed to 40 button instruments, in various keys. Edited July 27, 2020 by Richard Mellish Added another sentence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Trygve Posted July 27, 2020 Author Share Posted July 27, 2020 Richard, that's a great question. I didn't really consciously ask myself that. However, I think in the back of my head I was thinking about the push-pull of a diatonic versus pushing and pulling based on the phrasing of the tune. Anyway, it's a question for down the road now, as I've just bought a 48 english lachenal. It's due to my home tomorrow. I feel like it's Christmas eve! J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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