StephenTx Posted June 14, 2020 Posted June 14, 2020 When looking at a piece of music and not wanting to just play the melody but to play chords much of my music has the chords above. (As in the example below) I’m trying to understand this you’ll see a chord notated then you may have several bars of music until another cord is notated with lyrics. So you just can’t play the cord one time do you play the cord each time to the beat of the individual notes? How is this done? I hope this is not a stupid question but it won’t be the first one I would’ve askedI’m getting good at playing the melodic line but I really would like to be able to move away from that entirely and use the chord or Augument but I don’t understand how you use the chord relative to the music. Thank you I look forward to hearing from this knowledge of a group. Stephentx
petey Posted June 14, 2020 Posted June 14, 2020 (edited) I have the same question. The answer is probably: practice. I've been playing concertina for about 6 months, learned some nice songs playing the melody, but I haven't figured out how to play any songs using chords. Concertina seems harder in that regard than other instruments. Banjo for instance, I strum, pluck or frail the same pattern over and over with my right hand, make some chords with my left, and presto! - there's nothing to even think about. Easy as ringing a bell, and I can sing if I want to. Concertina is a different story. I'm sure part of my problem is that I don't read music very well. Again, the answer is probably practice. Edited June 14, 2020 by petey
Geoff Wooff Posted June 15, 2020 Posted June 15, 2020 (edited) It does appear that on the English Concertina it is easy to play chords or single line melody but not at all easy to play both together . This single keyboard divided across both ends makes it very different to most ( any) other instrument. My own approach is to add harmonizing notes to the melody, mostly by ear, usually, but not always, below the melody notes. One approach that also works for me, with written music , is to find scores for piano, simple ones are best, which give the melody and harmony and tells you when to play all the notes. There is a series of books written for beginners on piano ( and other instruments) called " The Joy of Piano (and lots of other instruments as well )"....from Yorktown Music Press. there are quite a few different books in the series. It is very easy to download music scores from the internet too but the one's with simple melody line and suggested chord as letters ( as in Fake books) are not that useful for the English concertina player. Books like "Dancing with ma Baby" and scores found on www.concertina.com will show what is possible, but getting around the keyboard and playing more than one note at a time using simple piano scores is a good start. Edited June 15, 2020 by Geoff Wooff
maccannic Posted June 15, 2020 Posted June 15, 2020 (edited) The answer's 'yes'. Yes, you could play one chord and hold it. Yes, you could play one chord and let go. Yes, you could play a chord every time there's a beat, or every time there's a note, or on some beats or notes but not others. The important thing is to listen to what yoy play, and play what sounds best to you. If someone suggests something different, try that too. The main difficulty you will find with the English is that both hands are involved with playing the tune, so it's not always easy to play exactly what chord you want, although that comes with practice too. Edited June 15, 2020 by maccannic Some of this confirms what Geoff just posted while I was posting.
wunks Posted June 15, 2020 Posted June 15, 2020 (edited) Coming from duet rather than EC but helpful I hope; Reverse your thinking. Play the chord sequence first and derive the melody from the chord. It's easier to locate the single note needed, which more than likely will be included in the chord, than to grope about for an appropriate cluster of harmony notes. Start with a very sparse simplified version of the tune maybe even one note per bar. Soon you'll be able to join both halves of your brain in the magnificent production of a glorious harmonic whole!....? Edited June 15, 2020 by wunks sp.
Anglo-Irishman Posted June 15, 2020 Posted June 15, 2020 Stephen, I think @maccannic has answered your question pretty well. The point is, the letters printed above the stave are not a complete notation. The merely form a basis for improvisation. It's up to the player to decide which harmonising notes to play, but in the first three bars of your example, the notes used should be part of the G major chord. Maybe G, B and D, or B, D and G, or maybe only G (I'd probably play a low G on the first beat of Bar 1, where the melody has an 1/8th rest, and then hold a G chord (G, B, D) for the whole of Bar 2.) Bar 4 uses the notes from the C major chord (all or any of C, E, G, in any squence), and so on. What makes this so easy for string players, as @petey points out, is that for instance, a banjoist's left hand forms the chord of (in your example) G major, but doesn't sound the notes of the chord. It's the right hand that selects which of the prepared notes of the G major chord to actually sound, and in what sequence, and in what rhythmic relationship to each other. I find that I can transfer the "banjo feeling" quite well to the duet concertina. I place the fingertips of my left hand over the buttons for the desired chord, but don't necessarily press all of them, or all of them at the same time. Meanwhile, my right hand is free to finger the melody. I imagine that this kind of chordal accompaniment might be tricky on an EC, if one is playing the melody at the same time. But I know it's possible, from what I've heard on recordings. I reckon we have to live with the fact that certain musical techniques work better, or are easier to master, on one instument than on another. And the EC, Anglo and Duet concertinas are, for the purposes of fingering, three different instruments. Cheers, John
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