Harmonium Reeds

[Tiposx]

Apologies for the failed uploads. I have now added photos and measurements.

Tiposx

[Bassconcertina.net]

Do you guys think that american pump organ reeds would work for a bass concertina?

[SteveS]

11 hours ago, Bassconcertina.net said:

Do you guys think that american pump organ reeds would work for a bass concertina?

That's what I plan to use in a bass design I have.

[d.elliott]

got any pictures of the reeds? I am not familiar with american pump organs.

 

 

[Bassconcertina.net]

On 10/25/2022 at 11:11 AM, d.elliott said:

got any pictures of the reeds? I am not familiar with american pump organs.

 

 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.worthpoint.com%2Fworthopedia%2F122-brass-reeds-w-kimball-pump-organ-1830081324&psig=AOvVaw0SmQHi8yxOq9SEBxc03qwI&ust=1666884555532000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CAkQjRxqFwoTCJjetoib_voCFQAAAAAdAAAAABAU

[Clive Thorne]

Seems to be an awful lot of shoe on those reeds, so I'd suspect it would make very heavy concertina.

[d.elliott]

I Think that the pump action reeds could work as surface mounted, but they would be heavy and the instrument would be best as a single action. What sort of chamber dimensions would these reeds relate to?

[Bill Crossland]

I managed to find a complete set of European made harmonium reeds, and for the projected bass Anglo the reed weight alone could be around 2kg.... I can reduce this by using conventional inset type reeds on the right end, but weight will still be an issue and single action for an Anglo isn't an option!

[d.elliott]

No Bill, but a single action Anglo would be quieter! 🦻

 

 

[Stephen Chambers]

Pump organ/American organ reeds (top) have never been used for making concertinas. They work on suction, and are designed for that - often voiced by bending/twisting of the reed tongue to give the desired sound.

 

The reed-frames are all of the same width, with rounded tips, and slot into the sound board/reed pan.

 

 

Harmoniums work on pressure, and French harmonium reeds (bottom) were commonly used in  English-made bass concertinas.

 

They already have two screw holes in them for attachment to the sound board/reed pan, and the width of the frame varies to match the width of the reed.

[Bassconcertina.net]

On 11/6/2022 at 4:12 PM, Stephen Chambers said:

Pump organ/American organ reeds (top) have never been used for making concertinas. They work on suction, and are designed for that - often voiced by bending/twisting of the reed tongue to give the desired sound.

 

The reed-frames are all of the same width, with rounded tips, and slot into the sound board/reed pan.

 

 

Harmoniums work on pressure, and French harmonium reeds (bottom) were commonly used in  English-made bass concertinas.

 

They already have two screw holes in them for attachment to the sound board/reed pan, and the width of the frame varies to match the width of the reed.

Do you still think its possible to use american pump organ reeds?

[Stephen Chambers]

1 hour ago, Bassconcertina.net said:

Do you still think its possible to use american pump organ reeds?

 

I don't know of anybody ever trying it, so all I can say is maybe.

 

[Bassconcertina.net]

52 minutes ago, Stephen Chambers said:

 

I don't know of anybody ever trying it, so all I can say is maybe.

 

well I guess we will find out.