Jim2010 Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 To my ears, the bandoneon sound is "livelier," more "raw" sounding than a cba accordeon, which sounds "smoother," more "homogeneous" to me. Could someone who is knowledgeable about how construction/materials affects sound point me in the direction of how to explore if an accordeon could be constructed/modified to sound "lively/raw" as possible. I am aware of the hybrid c system bandoneons, but I am more interested to learn if a cba accordion can achieve a "bandoneon-like" sound (beyond simply using LM reeds). Thank you for any help. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saguaro_squeezer Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 I have a Hornet Presswood D/G that is Bandoneon tuned (octave) and is rather close to my bandoneons in sound. I’m assuming that you’re not thinking the Einheitsbandoneon that has 3 reeds per note and a slight tremolo but rather the 2 reeds per note versions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inventor Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 (edited) There is one factor about the construction of the Bandoneon which alters the timbre. This is placing the reeds on continuous rather than individual reed plates. Russian "Bayan" accordions are also constructed in this way which gives the timbre that Russians favor. I suggest you find someone who plays a Russian Bayan and see if this is what you are looking for. I once had a concertina made in Moscow by a bayan accordion maker which had all the reeds of each side on a single plate. This instrument had a timbre much closer to the sound of a traditional concertina than a hybrid accordion reeded concertina. Inventor. Edited September 26, 2019 by inventor Left a couple of words out of reply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim2010 Posted September 27, 2019 Author Share Posted September 27, 2019 20 hours ago, saguaro_squeezer said: I have a Hornet Presswood D/G that is Bandoneon tuned (octave) and is rather close to my bandoneons in sound. I’m assuming that you’re not thinking the Einheitsbandoneon that has 3 reeds per note and a slight tremolo but rather the 2 reeds per note versions? Thank you. I may look in that, but for now I am curious to know If a cba accordion and be constructed/modified to sound more like a bandoneon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim2010 Posted September 27, 2019 Author Share Posted September 27, 2019 2 hours ago, inventor said: There is one factor about the construction of the Bandoneon which alters the timbre. This is placing the reeds on continuous rather than individual reed plates. Russian "Bayan" accordions are also constructed in this way which gives the timbre that Russians favor. I suggest you find someone who plays a Russian Bayan and see if this is what you are looking for. I once had a concertina made in Moscow by a bayan accordion maker which had all the reeds of each side on a single plate. This instrument had a timbre much closer to the sound of a traditional concertina than a hybrid accordion reeded concertina. Inventor. Thank you. I have someone locally to ask about that. I am also curious if the size of the box, its construction (materials, thickness, placement of the reeds), type of reeds, etc. I have a friend who plays cba accordion and bandoneon. Even though he is better as an accordion player, when he plays the bandoneon it's distinctive voice is quite striking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Selby Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Bandoneon reeds are tuned in perfect octaves, except for the highest notes. The instrument is made from very light wood with a big sounding chamber. The left hand (base) side has baffles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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