MaryHumphreys Posted June 19, 2019 Posted June 19, 2019 I play for ritual dance. Has anybody perfected a cover for an English concertina which will keep it from being ruined when playing in the rain?
W3DW Posted June 20, 2019 Posted June 20, 2019 And assuming that it is possible to completely prevent even one drop of rain or condensation from contacting the concertina, what are the consequences of playing in 100% humidity?
Aldon Sanders Posted June 20, 2019 Posted June 20, 2019 Someone on Cnet posted a video of concertina marching bands (maybe someone here can point you to the right thread) and they were playing their instrument in plastic bags. I don't know how well it works but the idea is appealing. Aldon
Geoff Wooff Posted June 20, 2019 Posted June 20, 2019 (edited) Most musical instruments are not designed for playing in the rain. Simplest solution is to change key, Bb or Eb, and play the trumpet or trombone. Advantages , such as far more volume and very waterproof should not be overlooked as well as the huge repertoire of sheet music arrangements available from sources like the Salvation Army in plastified, all weather versions too. Edited June 20, 2019 by Geoff Wooff 2
wunks Posted June 20, 2019 Posted June 20, 2019 3 hours ago, Geoff Wooff said: Most musical instruments are not designed for playing in the rain. Simplest solution is to change key, Bb or Eb, and play the trumpet or trombone. Advantages , such as far more volume and very waterproof should not be overlooked as well as the huge repertoire of sheet music arrangements available from sources like the Salvation Army in plastified, all weather versions too. I agree on changing Instruments. Unless "ritual dancing" specifically requires concertina accompaniment, I'd go with something like a kalimba, perhaps with a metallic or plastic sound box. My wife participates in "ecstatic dance" which is concertina specific. It requires me not playing one.
MaryHumphreys Posted June 20, 2019 Author Posted June 20, 2019 There are others in the band who play in G or D. I don’t think learning to play the trombone would be welcomed by them!
MaryHumphreys Posted June 20, 2019 Author Posted June 20, 2019 11 hours ago, Aldon Sanders said: Someone on Cnet posted a video of concertina marching bands (maybe someone here can point you to the right thread) and they were playing their instrument in plastic bags. I don't know how well it works but the idea is appealing. Aldon
MaryHumphreys Posted June 20, 2019 Author Posted June 20, 2019 If anyone has a video of this I would much appreciate it.
Don Taylor Posted June 20, 2019 Posted June 20, 2019 How about a large plastic poncho where your arms are inside the poncho. There are bike capes but if they are not big enough then maybe you could try the ponchos that are sold for riders of mobility scooters. There seems to be quite a selection on Amazon.co.uk. Anyyway, there can't be two Mary Humphreys in West Yorkshire who both play the concertina can there? This is completely off topic, but I sure hope that you do not switch to trombone or trumpet and that you continue to make wonderful, inspiring music on the concertina and banjo. Fortunately, the banjo does not figure too much in English ritual dance otherwise you would have an even bigger problem keeping it dry. 1
Geoff Wooff Posted June 20, 2019 Posted June 20, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, MaryHumphreys said: There are others in the band who play in G or D. I don’t think learning to play the trombone would be welcomed by them! It is not impossible to play the trombone in D or G and people have used such instruments in English Country Dance bands... but the question that begs is 'how do the other people in your band keep their instruments dry ?' What do Morris dance musicians use to protect their instruments ? Perhaps they wait for better weather... in a convenient Pub. The idea of playing a concertina in a plastic bag, or under a water proof poncho brings to mind the possibility of condensation... any squeezebox will process quite a lot of air during use. Perhaps it would be just as effective to employ an umbrella holding person and avoid windy situations? Edited June 20, 2019 by Geoff Wooff
Mike Jones Posted June 20, 2019 Posted June 20, 2019 The Morris side I dance /play for use 1. umbrellas provided the wind is not too strong and we have plenty of volunteers to hold them. ( the fiddlers and melodeonistas are especially anxious that their instruments remain dry too) or 2. plastic ponchos, available cheaply from loads of places such as P**ndl*nd (supply your own vowels) or even hotel concierges at times, these tend to be disposable so if you are anxious about plastic pollution possibly not the best solution, but reusable ones are also available for G* **td**rs and others, they pack small and I keep two in my concertina bag. The Bootle Concertina Band on YouTube are using bags for their concertinas in the linked video. I've not come across anything available commercially so perhaps they commissioned some
Leonard Posted June 20, 2019 Posted June 20, 2019 Here is a clearer view of the same band. These bags don't look that sophisticated.
Robin Harrison Posted June 20, 2019 Posted June 20, 2019 Marching Band cape.....might work ? Or this..............Accordion cape Robin
Roger Hare Posted June 21, 2019 Posted June 21, 2019 16 hours ago, Don Taylor said: How about a large plastic poncho where your arms are inside the poncho... ...as used by our fashion-conscious lead melodeon player... They are large and loose enough to enable the instrument to be played inside the poncho, and are transparent so that our wonderful musicians uniform is on full display. I think they also come in a 'disposable' form in packs of 3 (4?)...
Wolf Molkentin Posted June 21, 2019 Posted June 21, 2019 2 hours ago, lachenal74693 said: ...as used by our fashion-conscious lead melodeon player... well, would he need one, as lead might not be subject to corrosion? SCNR ? (figuring a very heavy sound to myself, like Le[a]d Zeppelin's, just folk or Morris)
David Barnert Posted June 23, 2019 Posted June 23, 2019 I have a beach umbrella that I use for playing for Morris dancing in the rain. I call it my “music shed.” Not all beach umbrellas will work. The shaft is about an inch in diameter. It has a dull point at the bottom, which I put into my pants pocket after first passing it under my belt. Then I also hold it firmly between my chest and my upper arm (either side) to hold it steady. Three or four musicians can fit under it. In the past I’ve gotten them at BJ’s and Target. I needed a new one this year and could only find one small enough at Walmart.
David Barnert Posted June 24, 2019 Posted June 24, 2019 On 6/22/2019 at 10:43 PM, David Barnert said: I have a beach umbrella that I use for playing for Morris dancing in the rain. I call it my “music shed.” Not all beach umbrellas will work. The shaft is about an inch in diameter. It has a dull point at the bottom, which I put into my pants pocket after first passing it under my belt. Then I also hold it firmly between my chest and my upper arm (either side) to hold it steady. Three or four musicians can fit under it. In the past I’ve gotten them at BJ’s and Target. I needed a new one this year and could only find one small enough at Walmart. I found a picture of me using it:
Robin Madge Posted June 25, 2019 Posted June 25, 2019 Anne and I use those cheap cycle cape style coveralls that you tend to get at Blackpool and other seaside resorts. I call the look of them "boil in the bag Morris musician". Robin 1
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