rcr27 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 (edited) Hi all Yes you’ve probably seen it before and I’m the lucky one who got this concertina. (I’ve only been into concertinas for about 2 years so I’m not an expert and correct me if I’m wrong). In terms of condition, excellent: Tuned to A=440Hz (some notes are a little out on the push or pull). Not sure if the reeds are steel or brass, but it sounds fairly loud compared to a brass reeded like the tutor models, so Im thinking they’re steel. Is it really a Crabb? Well it has a Crabb stamp on the pad board and what seems to be an odd handwritten number “685” in the bellows frame.This makes me think that it is indeed orginial. Again I’m m not an expert on concertinas so I could be wrong, but I can certainly assure you that this isn’t a “jerk” at all... Here is the picture of the stamp. Edited December 6, 2018 by rcr27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Wolf Molkentin Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 congrats! and see here... best wishes - ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcr27 Posted December 6, 2018 Author Share Posted December 6, 2018 Thank you! Yes I’ve seen all the comments and indeed this is a rare concertina model, but in really good condition. Regards 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprunghub Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Is that not a Vickers ink 'stamp' which appears to be much earlier than the more prominent/later Crabb one ? Would that indicate a Lachenal Popular for Vickers originally ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcr27 Posted December 6, 2018 Author Share Posted December 6, 2018 I have no idea to he honest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex_holden Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 The paper label on the bottom of the reed pan is something I've only seen on Lachenals. There is a longer serial number stamped on the inside of the bellows frame, looks something like 11881? It would help to see the action levers for additional confirmation. You can tell if the reeds are brass or steel from the colour of the metal (brass is more yellow) and the presence or not of rust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcr27 Posted December 7, 2018 Author Share Posted December 7, 2018 The reeds are metal colour so yes they are steel. Actually yes there is that number there I just realised, seems like 11881 or 11831 can’t see properly but thanks for that. I will open it up again and see the action levers soon if I have spare time. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprunghub Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 There appear to be three stamps from a retailer/repairer in Bermondsey too ? If you can decipher them they may help you date it's production and tally it with Vickers / Lachenal / Crabb to establish a timeline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcr27 Posted December 7, 2018 Author Share Posted December 7, 2018 Yes there are many stamps barely visible. I will take a picture again on both sides. Perhaps this concertina was repaired at some point of its life. That’s probably why the concertina is in such a wonderful condition cosmetically. The bellows are like new, the thumb straps, the ends and everything is in excellent condition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Molkentin Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 sometimes it simply is not that simple... ? my new Crabb Crane is undoubtedly made by Crabb but appears to have an entire set of Wheatstone reeds applied as a replacement for a reason not known today... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcr27 Posted December 7, 2018 Author Share Posted December 7, 2018 I know plus is very hard to find english concertinas made by crabb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saguaro_squeezer Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 But they make exquisite Cranes. Though, I'm about to receive a big Crabb Maccann, which I'm given to understand is quite rare, only 60 or so ever made! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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