Pierced Metal Sides

[alex_holden]

I have been searching for pictures of instruments with pierced metal action box sides, but so far the only one I've found is the one shown in this previous topic:

https://www.concertina.net/forums/index.php?/topic/13626-my-vintage-crabb-anglo-for-sale/

Anyone aware of any others?

[Takayuki YAGI]

C and S issue 31 mentioned above thread had a photo of similar one (Crabb). Except for that I can only recall wooden ones.

[Roger Hare]

The article on miniature and semi-miniature concertinas here contains several illustrations which appear to

be of metal-ended concertinas.

 

Later: Silly me! I should have posted pictures of my own metal-ended instruments:

 

First: A modern Marcus G/D hybrid (Purchased from a member here about 3 years ago. This is the one I use

     for t'Morris - good and loud - blow yer socks off two counties away!)

Second: A vintage George Jones C/G (Also purchased from a local parishioner. Serial number 20839, date?)

 

Much later stil:. Ah! I now see that the OP related to metal-ends with additional fretting on the hexagonal edge/side of the 

wrap-around metal end (as opposed to a simple end-plate). I should have clocked that straight from the start I agolopise

for muddying the waters...

 

Roger

 

Edited November 5, 2018 by lachenal74693

[Peter Laban]

I have this of Cormac Begley playing one, unfortunately for the whole series the focus is on the player, not particularly the instrument. This one shows the instrument best:

 

Edited October 18, 2018 by Peter Laban
clarify

[adrian brown]

Alex,

 

This is the only one I have ever seen in the flesh:

 

https://www.horniman.ac.uk/collections/browse-our-collections/object/2834

 

I've always wondered how important the reflection off of the side walls is in concertinas - thinking about how different the "inboard" mounted reeds sound.

 

Adrian

[alex_holden]

Thanks Takayuki, Roger, Peter and Adrian! I was discussing with a client the possibility of my making an instrument with sides like this, but I believe he's decided against the idea.

 

Adrian: a member contacted me off-forum to say he's heard a couple of instruments with pierced metal sides and they both have a very piercing sound. I suppose whether that is a good or a bad thing probably depends on the sort of environment you play in!

[Peter Laban]

I have a recording made when the above snap of Cormac Begley was taken. I don't remember the concertina as particularly harsh. I'll dig it out later today.

[Takayuki YAGI]

Just FYI, Barleycorn lists a Dipper with pierced metal sides now.

http://www.concertina.co.uk/stock-selection/?concertina=3145

[alex_holden]

6 hours ago, Takayuki YAGI said:

Just FYI, Barleycorn lists a Dipper with pierced metal sides now.

http://www.concertina.co.uk/stock-selection/?concertina=3145

 

Nice, thanks!

[adrian brown]

What a beauty - just a shame the 38 buttons are arranged in that way - I wouldn't be able to get my head around it...

 

I wonder who now owns the Crabb on that C&S cover with the more standard layout.

 

Adrian

Edited October 28, 2018 by adrian brown

[Robin Madge]

I seem to remember that Bob Bradbury had one in Somerset, back in the 1980s when I bought my 40 button C/G Wheatstone from him. He was in two minds which to sell.

 

Robin

[alex_holden]

@David Hornett asked me to pass this on because he's unable to log into the forum right now. He says he's familiar with two fully-metal-ended Dipper Anglos, both exceptionally loud instruments.

 

One was owned by the late Peter Ellis:

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNAU9Yk9njM

 

The other is owned by Ray Simpson:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJh29ns0Eh

[Dowright]

My data on Lachenals (of which 3359 Anglos) does  not contain any with side-fretted metal ends. However, there is one with side -fretted  wood ends--No 84741; 30 key ; bone buttons, steel reeds; 6-fold bellows. I held a similar one in 2002, but did not get the serial number. I know that it was 2002, beacause I saw it at the home of  the host for a Charles Wheatstone 200th birthday celebration. 

Edited November 4, 2018 by Dowright

[Daniel Hersh]

There was some discussion of pierced sides in this thread:

 

[Takayuki YAGI]

Just FYI, McNeela lists a Jeffries with pierced metal sides now.

https://mcneelamusic.com/c-jeffries-38-key-concertina/

[alex_holden]

23 hours ago, Takayuki YAGI said:

Just FYI, McNeela lists a Jeffries with pierced metal sides now.

https://mcneelamusic.com/c-jeffries-38-key-concertina/

 

Thanks Takayuki. Some of the metalwork on this one looks pretty crude, I wonder if it was a later modification. Also it kind of looks like somebody has added a baffle under part of the side fretwork on the bottom of the right hand side.

 

 

[Alex West]

Looks more like sellotape holding the ends together!

 

BTW, I have a relatively early Dipper (No 104) with pierced ends.  It's a GD but with the G row an octave higher than a normal GD. It's a very piercing sound but how much of that is due to the pierced ends and how much the pitching is difficult to tell

 

Alex West

[alex_holden]

You could be right, it does look like sticky tape.