alex_holden Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 I have been searching for pictures of instruments with pierced metal action box sides, but so far the only one I've found is the one shown in this previous topic: https://www.concertina.net/forums/index.php?/topic/13626-my-vintage-crabb-anglo-for-sale/ Anyone aware of any others? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takayuki YAGI Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 C and S issue 31 mentioned above thread had a photo of similar one (Crabb). Except for that I can only recall wooden ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Hare Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 (edited) The article on miniature and semi-miniature concertinas here contains several illustrations which appear to be of metal-ended concertinas. Later: Silly me! I should have posted pictures of my own metal-ended instruments: First: A modern Marcus G/D hybrid (Purchased from a member here about 3 years ago. This is the one I use for t'Morris - good and loud - blow yer socks off two counties away!) Second: A vintage George Jones C/G (Also purchased from a local parishioner. Serial number 20839, date?) Much later stil:. Ah! I now see that the OP related to metal-ends with additional fretting on the hexagonal edge/side of the wrap-around metal end (as opposed to a simple end-plate). I should have clocked that straight from the start I agolopise for muddying the waters... Roger Edited November 5, 2018 by lachenal74693 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Laban Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 (edited) I have this of Cormac Begley playing one, unfortunately for the whole series the focus is on the player, not particularly the instrument. This one shows the instrument best: Edited October 18, 2018 by Peter Laban clarify Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian brown Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 Alex, This is the only one I have ever seen in the flesh: https://www.horniman.ac.uk/collections/browse-our-collections/object/2834 I've always wondered how important the reflection off of the side walls is in concertinas - thinking about how different the "inboard" mounted reeds sound. Adrian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex_holden Posted October 18, 2018 Author Share Posted October 18, 2018 Thanks Takayuki, Roger, Peter and Adrian! I was discussing with a client the possibility of my making an instrument with sides like this, but I believe he's decided against the idea. Adrian: a member contacted me off-forum to say he's heard a couple of instruments with pierced metal sides and they both have a very piercing sound. I suppose whether that is a good or a bad thing probably depends on the sort of environment you play in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Laban Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 I have a recording made when the above snap of Cormac Begley was taken. I don't remember the concertina as particularly harsh. I'll dig it out later today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takayuki YAGI Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 Just FYI, Barleycorn lists a Dipper with pierced metal sides now. http://www.concertina.co.uk/stock-selection/?concertina=3145 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex_holden Posted October 28, 2018 Author Share Posted October 28, 2018 6 hours ago, Takayuki YAGI said: Just FYI, Barleycorn lists a Dipper with pierced metal sides now. http://www.concertina.co.uk/stock-selection/?concertina=3145 Nice, thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian brown Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 (edited) What a beauty - just a shame the 38 buttons are arranged in that way - I wouldn't be able to get my head around it... I wonder who now owns the Crabb on that C&S cover with the more standard layout. Adrian Edited October 28, 2018 by adrian brown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Madge Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 I seem to remember that Bob Bradbury had one in Somerset, back in the 1980s when I bought my 40 button C/G Wheatstone from him. He was in two minds which to sell. Robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex_holden Posted November 4, 2018 Author Share Posted November 4, 2018 @David Hornett asked me to pass this on because he's unable to log into the forum right now. He says he's familiar with two fully-metal-ended Dipper Anglos, both exceptionally loud instruments. One was owned by the late Peter Ellis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNAU9Yk9njM The other is owned by Ray Simpson: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJh29ns0Eh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dowright Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 (edited) My data on Lachenals (of which 3359 Anglos) does not contain any with side-fretted metal ends. However, there is one with side -fretted wood ends--No 84741; 30 key ; bone buttons, steel reeds; 6-fold bellows. I held a similar one in 2002, but did not get the serial number. I know that it was 2002, beacause I saw it at the home of the host for a Charles Wheatstone 200th birthday celebration. Edited November 4, 2018 by Dowright Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Hersh Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 There was some discussion of pierced sides in this thread: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takayuki YAGI Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Just FYI, McNeela lists a Jeffries with pierced metal sides now. https://mcneelamusic.com/c-jeffries-38-key-concertina/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex_holden Posted November 16, 2018 Author Share Posted November 16, 2018 23 hours ago, Takayuki YAGI said: Just FYI, McNeela lists a Jeffries with pierced metal sides now. https://mcneelamusic.com/c-jeffries-38-key-concertina/ Thanks Takayuki. Some of the metalwork on this one looks pretty crude, I wonder if it was a later modification. Also it kind of looks like somebody has added a baffle under part of the side fretwork on the bottom of the right hand side. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex West Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Looks more like sellotape holding the ends together! BTW, I have a relatively early Dipper (No 104) with pierced ends. It's a GD but with the G row an octave higher than a normal GD. It's a very piercing sound but how much of that is due to the pierced ends and how much the pitching is difficult to tell Alex West Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex_holden Posted November 16, 2018 Author Share Posted November 16, 2018 You could be right, it does look like sticky tape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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