Mcneela Phoenix

[JimmyG]

20 hours ago, Livvy said:

Do you mean that there really isn’t much difference between the quality of the Swan and the Phoenix?

 

I agree with Pentaprism's thoughts here, and don't have much more to add really!

 

The lack of proper bushings is a shame. I've seen some (newer??) Swans taken to bits which seem to now have the bushing board, as before minus felt, now screwed down between the action. This seems like a better idea. Probably due to similar complaints.

 

I eventually upgraded to a vintage instrument, but kept the swan. Partly because I want to experiment and tinker with it, but partly because it's actually not too bad. It's loud and fast, just unrefined and a bit unwieldy. It got me bitten on the bug, though. No way would I have spent over £1000 on something I didn't know for sure I'd love, but I'm a poor musician. I think you can do a lot worse for the money. Plus I'll be able to take it camping without having kittens.

 

21 hours ago, Livvy said:

My guess is that something nicer than the Phoenix would mean going the vintage route

 

Maybe, maybe not. You might find a reasonable bargain if you keep your eye on this forum long enough.

 

2 hours ago, pentaprism said:

It was a decent instrument if you're not sure Anglo concertina is for you

 

This was what I was getting at, really. It's a dip-your-toes instrument. If you get it out every now and again to have a go, it might fit the bill. It got me to the point of playing well enough to know what I wanted in an instrument.

 

If it's going to be a serious pursuit, continue doing research as you are, and read some of the brilliant advice, discussions, and arguments in this forum.

 

All the best! 

[pentaprism]

I just checked the price of the Swan - US$ 1,185. I remember paying between US$ 800 and 900 for it.

 

If I were starting out, I'd rather pay a bit more for a restored 20-key vintage. I would outgrow it some day but would keep it as a travel concertina. A 26-key would be even better.

[Livvy]

Thanks Pentaprism and JimmyG! I think I’m set now that I really want to save up for something nicer than the Swan. I’ve always loved the concertina even though I’ve never owned one, and I know I want to pursue it. I was thinking the same way  as Pentaprism about possibly not being able to progress as fast or play as well on a less-refined instrument.

Thanks for all the input.