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I am looking at anglo hybrid concertinas. Has anyone actually played or owned one of the Phoenix c/g. It is advertised as an intermediate level concertina. It sounds good in their promotional video  and appears to play fast- although it is being played by a champion.The price is very competitive, but there isn't much info around except via Mcneela.

I understand that the model is similar to its predecessor the Mcneela Swallow.

Thanks 

Tiposx

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I asked myself the same question about the Phoenix, it does sound pretty good !

But like you said, she is a very good player and can make the Wren sound pretty good too...

My story: I bought the Wren and decide to send it back for a refund. 

They have a good refund policy so you can always order the Phoenix and send it back if you don't like it !

 

Good luck and in that case, please tell us what you think about the Phoenix 😉 

I decided to go for a vintage 20b, cheaper and usually very good if well restored (better buy from a known seller/shop). But now looking for a 26b.

For a 30b, I understand your choice concerning the Phoenix.

 

Nicolas

 

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Hi Papawemba

Thank you for that info. Like you I noticed that Caitlin Nic Gabhann made even the beginner instrument sound super.

Good point re buying on trial,  I  will have a think about that for a few days on holiday. Meanwhile I am looking for reviews and other people's experiences of the hybrid models. There seems to be a theme that one has to spend £2k to get a good instrument, but I just don't want to spend that much. My house is full of lovely musical instruments and yet the most expensive one is a "beginner" grade english concertina!

Tiposx

 

 

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On 10/9/2018 at 8:20 PM, papawemba said:

My story: I bought the Wren and decide to send it back for a refund. 

Hi Nicolas why did you send the Wren back? 

Tiposx

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Hello Tiposx, you can find my initial impression of the Wren 2 here https://www.concertina.net/forums/index.php?/topic/19805-buying-advice-under-50000/&tab=comments#comment-185246

 

I was really going for the Phoenix lately but as I couldn't find any more information/reviews, I gave up.

And find out that for the price of a 3 rows (in general), I could buy two vintage 20b lol or a 20b and 26b...    

The third row is very expensive !!

 

Best ! 

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Yes looks interesting and it is a great price. Must be a catch somewhere?

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On 10/16/2018 at 2:12 PM, papawemba said:

I guess no catch...I am thinking about it but definitively waiting for a sale.

There's a sale on now, ends tomorrow

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I bought one of these through their webpage and promptly returned it. It does have a nice tone, the buttons do have quick action and it looked nice, but it is not an instrument that punches above its weight cost-wise. The bellows action is stiff, the air button feels like sucking through a tiny straw and there is a fair bit of empty air before a note is produced with the other buttons. Result, you really have to work and use a lot of force to play at speed with the Phoenix. It is a chore to play quickly. Also pay attention to the details of the button layout, I was expecting to find a F natural on button 30 but not so. Price wise it is about halfway between a Concertina Connection Rochelle and a Button Box Morse, and that’s exactly what you get. It is a lot better than the Rochelle and well short of the Morse. Great for a beginner or an early intermediate player but set your expectations accordingly.

Edited by Jeremy
Specified it was an online purchase

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