BILL321 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 (edited) I HAVE RECENTLY ACQUIRED A 28 BUTTON ANGLO CONCERTINA - KEYS E + B - [note NOT Eb / Bb] WITH ADDITIONAL NOTES ON THE THIRD ROW - E / F# / Bb / B / C# MADE IN GERMANY BUT NO MAKER'S NAME DOES ANYONE HAVE INFORMATION ABOUT THIS - OR SIMILAR ?? Edited September 1, 2018 by BILL321 photo added Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ken_Coles Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 All I know is that this key combination does turn up on old German instruments, which were made for many years. Others know more about that than I. Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILL321 Posted September 2, 2018 Author Share Posted September 2, 2018 THANKS KEN - YOURS IS MY FIRST REPLY - BILL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Hersh Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 I'd guess it was made in the late 1800's, most likely for export from Germany to England. It likely has a wooden action and long-plate reeds - though you could find that out for sure by taking it apart. What are you trying to find out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILL321 Posted September 3, 2018 Author Share Posted September 3, 2018 hi DANIEL - thanks for your reply - you are correct with the description of the internal action, which seems to be in very good condition as I was not sure about the age - my main reason for wanting to find out a little more about the instrument is that there appears to be nothing online about GERMAN 28 models - just ENGLISH - and similarly nothing on concertinas in E and B - as I think Eb and Bb are the favoured keys - BILL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takayuki YAGI Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 I have seen German made 28 button model 3 times in the past on eBay. One of them was in C/G and rest of them were unknown key combination. The example photo is from eBay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILL321 Posted September 3, 2018 Author Share Posted September 3, 2018 hi TAKAYUKI - thanks for that - yes the photo looks practically the same as mine - regards - BILL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anglo-Irishman Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 HI, Bill, I read somewhere that early German 20-button concertinas were often in A/E.This is the key combination of two of the main rows of the modern Bandoneon (main rows are G/A/E), and of course the Bandoneon is a development of the German Concertina. It also has straight, wooden levers and the reeds mounted ten (or more) to a plate. The appearance of your instrument - especially the fretwork on the ends - looks very English-inspired, though the buttons are big and white, like on German concertinas. So I would guess that this was a German concertina made for the English market. Just guesswork, FWIW! Cheers, John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILL321 Posted September 3, 2018 Author Share Posted September 3, 2018 hi JOHN - thanks for your observations - I think you are correct about the background of the instrument - it's appearance is as you say "english inspired " and another piece of the "jigsaw" into it's history - regards - BILL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Hersh Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 Here's an instruction manual for German concertinas from 1865 that includes the 28-key layout: http://www.concertina.com/merris/sedgwick-improved-complete-german/sedgwick-improved-complete-instructions-for-german-concertina-1893.pdf . In this example (see p. 25) the three rows are in Bb, C and G, which would be equivalent to G, A and E for your concertina, which ties in with what John said about the bandoneon layout and I believe also applies to other big German concertinas like Chemnitzers and Carlsfelders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILL321 Posted September 4, 2018 Author Share Posted September 4, 2018 hi DANIEL - many thanks for your link to the SEDGWICK GUIDE - very informative - where on earth did you manage to find it - because I was having no luck at all with my investigations and as you rightly say the tie in of keys follows a similar pattern thanks again - BILL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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