papawemba Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Hello, I like to buy a used Rochelle concertina (in good condition of course ). I live in Europe (Belgium) so I prefer a seller from Europe, cheaper postage... Thank you ! Nicolas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimTim Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Hi Nicolas, I hope you'll find what you want - but just FYI, do you know that Harry Geuns sells the Rochelle in Belgium? With shipping included you'd be looking at less than 400 eur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papawemba Posted September 8, 2017 Author Share Posted September 8, 2017 Thank TimTim ! I also live in Brussel ;-) That is great news, I can't believe google never showed me Harry Geuns site !!?? This is indeed great news, I will certainly buy it there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimTim Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 I also live in Brussel ;-) Then I think you should get a Jackie because that's what I already have And if you haven't looked into it yet, check out the OAIM, all the lessons are on an Anglo! (unless of course you get Skype lessons!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papawemba Posted September 11, 2017 Author Share Posted September 11, 2017 Thanks TimTim ! I already have an Anglo Lachenal 20 buttons which I really enjoy J I can’t afford a 30 buttons so I was looking for the Rochelle…This week end, I discovered on internet the Elise duet Hayden concertina, I have to say I am completely attract to it lol (even just to learn this tune ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djQCJqOSA-U). Yes I already subscribe to OIAM, nice tune there ! (for anglo). For the Jackie, I didn’t consider it… I have an app called “Englitina” on my smartphone, great app which is a virtual English concertina . After a few try, I had severe headache J Could not find the note for an easy tune and even when I got it down (with many mistakes), my brain completely forgot it in next try J So not intuitive to me. Best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papawemba Posted September 11, 2017 Author Share Posted September 11, 2017 So I am not interested in Rochelle anymore ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimTim Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 (edited) Hi Nicolas, I suppose you've done your research on the Elise? Lots of interesting conversations, including one where a forum member explains the problem it might be the day you want to upgrade....and there are no "middle-range" concertinas available. I thought it was something rather crucial to consider... But then I am also curious about trying the Elise one day so... (by the way, I think the app can't mimic the instrument. When you have the concertina in your hands, there are so many elements your brain and your body register to make sense of it that I think it makes a huge difference. That is, you remember more easily and all. ) [edit] Sorry I'm in a hurry, just to add that there this other member Matthew Vanitas I think, who played an Elise for a good few years before upgrading so that too is good to know... aaarrhgh you've put the Elise back on my mind. Edited September 13, 2017 by TimTim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papawemba Posted September 13, 2017 Author Share Posted September 13, 2017 (edited) Hey TimTim....I already ordered the Elise, I can't wait !!! (about 6 weeks to get here grrr). In Concertina range, this seem the perfect instrument for me. Unfortunately, I don't have much time to learn a new instrument and the Hayden layout is very intuitive and easy (same shape of chords fingering all around the 2 side !! Never heard of this isomorphic layout before). I can easily see myself playing around some simple "medievalesque" melody with a drone note :-) The video above is just awesome, I get back to it a lot ! Yes I did some research and find out exactly there are no middle range for the duet...but that's ok because concertina is kind of my second instrument and won't have time to invest a lot ! Agree with the app, that was a little tease ;-) But still I don’t' like the continuous exchange between left/right side...I find that stressful lol. Eventually we can meet so you can try the Elise to make up your mind ;-) Nicolas Edited September 13, 2017 by papawemba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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