David Barnert Posted June 7 Posted June 7 7 hours ago, Tiposx said: Definitely a Lachenal then! 5 hours ago, wes williams said: This is a Maccann Duet Just to be clear: It is BOTH a Maccann and a Lachenal. Professor John Hill Maccann designed the layout of the buttons, Louis Lachenal’s company built the instrument.
4to5to6 Posted June 7 Posted June 7 On 6/3/2025 at 6:55 AM, wes williams said: 25023 Lachenal Excelsior English - c. 1883 29815 Lachenal - Keith Prowse label English - c. 1891 39807 Lachenal Inimitable English - c. 1901 Thanks Wes. Would you like photos or any additional info?
wes williams Posted June 7 Posted June 7 11 hours ago, Ryanoberlein said: So you are placing this specific instrument at 1896? A Lachenal made Maccann Duet system, produced circa 1896. All the dates we give are estimates based on 30 years work by Randall Merris, as there are no records. Duets use a different serial number range to all the other concertina types. As you are new here, I gave you some extra Maccann Duet system info as you'd said it was an anglo and thought it was around 1873.
4to5to6 Posted Saturday at 06:20 AM Posted Saturday at 06:20 AM Hi Wes, Thanks for all the help. I have a very nice Lachenal 49 key McCann duet, serial number 1663 in almost mint condition. Gut feeling is it is about C. 1900. Very clean... it even has the key for the case. Just needs a new case handle and will tune it to A=440. Please give me a circa year for it? Thanks.
wes williams Posted Saturday at 09:21 AM Posted Saturday at 09:21 AM Maccann 1663 is estimated as circa 1897. 49 keys seems unusual, normally they are 38 or 46.
4to5to6 Posted yesterday at 01:09 AM Posted yesterday at 01:09 AM Correct. My mistake. It is a 39 key. No air button. 19 on the LH, 20 on the RH.
4to5to6 Posted yesterday at 01:19 AM Posted yesterday at 01:19 AM (edited) One more (there's always one more)... it's my first English concertina... Lachenal 38857. A year would be wonderful. Oops, another "one more"... Lachenal 157767, my first Anglo I'm building hang tags for all my cases putting the manufacture, serial No., date, and original owner's name or some unique characteristic. I have a few small maker concertinas that I adore: George Cases, a Cramer, a Rock Chidley, a Simpson, etc. If I don't know, I'm just putting "mid 1800s" on the tag. Do you have any idea on how to date these ones? Thanks for all the help. Edited yesterday at 01:31 AM by 4to5to6
wes williams Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago English 38857 circa 1900. Anglo 157767 circa 1897. There's a rough guide to the operating periods and addresses of many of the smaller makers (but written 20 years ago) on my website .
4to5to6 Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago Thank you Wes. I’ll look at your website. Not a lot of experience, but I’m a big fan of Rock Chidley; amazing resonance and tone. George Case is wonderful too with their double chambered reed pans.
wes williams Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago While you are on my website, also look at Chris Flint's site which has more details on Scates, Chidleys, Case, etc ... http://www.concertinas.org.uk/scates/
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