wes williams Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 18 hours ago, Tad52 said: In 2005 Stephen Chambers in his very comprehensive "Some Notes on Lachenal Concertina Production and Serial Numbers" gave a lowest confirmed number of 6119 for concertinas made by Louis Lachenal in his own name, rather than for Charles Wheatstone, and deduced that Louis Lachenal commenced his numbering for English concertinas from 6000. Has this been revised downwards in the light of earlier concertinas that have since come to light, such as mine? Almost 20 years later, our current database of 2696 reports of Lachenal English has seven in the 5000 range, with the lowest confirmed number of 5063. So we would estimate your instrument to be circa 1859. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tad52 Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 On 2/14/2022 at 2:51 PM, wes williams said: Almost 20 years later, our current database of 2696 reports of Lachenal English has seven in the 5000 range, with the lowest confirmed number of 5063. So we would estimate your instrument to be circa 1859. Thank you, Wes. My Louis Lachenal No 5810 plays well; I identified it as being visually similar to a Wheatstone model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerT Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 Hi, I've been restoring a Lachenal 20k Anglo, steel reeds (although it’s been retuned to GD..not by me). The serial number is 87898. Any idea of the approx date of manufacture would be helpful. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wes williams Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 We'd estimate anglo 87898 to be circa 1886. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerT Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 53 minutes ago, wes williams said: We'd estimate anglo 87898 to be circa 1886. Thanks very much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerT Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Hi, I have a Lachenal EC 48, student, brass reeds, serial #44249. Any idea of the age would be much appreciated. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Chambers Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 3 hours ago, RogerT said: Hi, I have a Lachenal EC 48, student, brass reeds, serial #44249. Any idea of the age would be much appreciated. Thanks That would be from 1905. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerT Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grainne Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 Hi, I have a concertina for the last 20 years or so and I was wondering if someone could help me date it. It’s a leche Al (I think Anglo) 30 button with 2 novelty squeak button (sounds like a dog toy) it’s silver end and silver button 6 bellow folds and serial number 175722. any help would be greatly appreciated grainne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d.elliott Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 Grainne, You are describing a Lachenal 30k Anglo concertina, metal ended and metal keyed. with that serial number the latest information from those who have tracking Lachenal serial numbers/ dating information would put your concertina at Circa 1903. I hope that this helps you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtotani Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 Hi, I have a Lachenal 46-button duet with serial number 1016. Could you give me an estimate when it was constructed? This one is tuned almost semitone higher than what we call "concert pitch". Totani Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wes williams Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 Circa 1892. It was probably tuned to 'Old Philharmonic Pitch', see the list of pitches on page 2 of this Lachenal price list. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtotani Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 1 hour ago, wes williams said: Circa 1892. It was probably tuned to 'Old Philharmonic Pitch', see the list of pitches on page 2 of this Lachenal price list. Thank a lot. So this tiny squeeze box is more or less 130 years old! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacour Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 I have a Lachenal numbered 36489, so would be grateful for any info regarding date or anything else. Many thanks Steve C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wes williams Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 Steve - we need to know what type as both English and Anglo systems use this number, and each system has different dates. The number of buttons might give us a clue if you don't know what system it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacour Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 Sorry, didn't realise English and Anglo used the same numbering. It's a 48 key English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wes williams Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 An English system 36489 would be circa 1898. That number on an Anglo would be circa 1876, so you can see why we need to know the type Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Barr Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Hi Wes Can you give me a date for this instrument? Lachenal Anglo C/G 158423 32B+air Amboyna ends, bone buttons, 6 fold bellows Thanks Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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