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Dating A Lachenal From The Serial Number


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I am trying to date a family heirloom concertina,  LACHENAL, serial number 42759, an Anglo student model I believe.  I have no knowledge of why it had resided in our cupboard since I was born (1935) in Adelaide, South Australia.  I have some information from the Wheatstone Ledgers with our family name mentioned in a purchase in 1853.  If this serial number goes back that far, it will be a great story.  The rosewood fretwork, ivory buttons, intact faded soft velvet lining, and a restored bellows make it a lovely little instrument.  I would also like to know its worth.  Thanking you if I can trace its history.IMG_0599.JPG.d83c09bcaf542da5750596eb87e04622.JPG  

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From Dowrights information in this thread, this Lachenal (not Wheatstone!) dates from around 1870 - 1875. Sometimes the first digit of the number is hidden behind the fretwork, so it could be 142759, which would be 1890's. You would need to have a better look at the number, which will also be stamped inside, to confirm.

 

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It looks a bit new for 42,000 series,  would suggest you have a look inside to check if there are other clear stampings. One under the action box, one in-between the chamber walls and one on the inside of the bellows frame. All this at both ends of the instrument.

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I hope the pictures help. It needs some tlc to get it running properly again. I got it at a price that I couldn't say no to but I can't get on with it. I play EC and anglo style goes straight over my head. I can see me part exchanging it for a tenor EC. 

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9 hours ago, Ebosis said:

I hope the pictures help. It needs some tlc to get it running properly again. I got it at a price that I couldn't say no to but I can't get on with it. I play EC and anglo style goes straight over my head. I can see me part exchanging it for a tenor EC. 

 

Interesting pictures; the pierced sides are quite unusual and I don't think I've seen that on a Lachenal before.

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30 minutes ago, alex_holden said:

 

Interesting pictures; the pierced sides are quite unusual and I don't think I've seen that on a Lachenal before.

I too think the Lachenals with pierced sides are rare, but not non-existent. I saw Barleycorn once sold the Lachenals with pierced sides at least 3 times.

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11 minutes ago, Takayuki YAGI said:

I too think the Lachenals with pierced sides are rare, but not non-existent. I saw Barleycorn once sold the Lachenals with pierced sides at least 3 times.

Here, for example. https://concertina.co.uk/stock-selection/anglo-concertinas/gorgeous-lachenal-32-key-anglo-in-bb-f/

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I have a very similar Lachenal pierced sides, but wooden rather than metal ends.  It’s a very good quality instrument with very good reeds.

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Once you get it restored, you might want to get a modern case or, at the very least, rest this case on its side. Storing a concertina vertically, though the traditional way (or maybe I should say old-fashioned way) is not good for valves--the leather strips accompanying each reed.

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Could I ask for a date for an English Concertina, ebony ends with silver nickel(?) floral insets, 48 glass buttons, 5 fold bellows and steel reeds with internal numbering 12582, please? From preceding number attributions it looks to be mid 1860s(?), any further refinement to this would be of interest.

 

Looking to the 1861 Lachenal catalogue it appears to be a 'model 7' http://www.concertina.com/pricelists/lachenal/Lachenal-Intl-Exhibition-1862.pdf

a marque that would later be described as 'Excelsior'. I'm not sure if the reeds on mine are 'standard' or 'tempered', there's some suggestion of the bluing one might expect with tempering, but nothing definitive to my untutored eye.

 

Many thanks, in advance.

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2 hours ago, Myrtle's cook said:

Could I ask for a date for an English Concertina, ebony ends with silver nickel(?) floral insets, 48 glass buttons, 5 fold bellows and steel reeds with internal numbering 12582, please? From preceding number attributions it looks to be mid 1860s(?), any further refinement to this would be of interest.

 

Looking to the 1861 Lachenal catalogue it appears to be a 'model 7' http://www.concertina.com/pricelists/lachenal/Lachenal-Intl-Exhibition-1862.pdf

a marque that would later be described as 'Excelsior'. I'm not sure if the reeds on mine are 'standard' or 'tempered', there's some suggestion of the bluing one might expect with tempering, but nothing definitive to my untutored eye.

 

Many thanks, in advance.

 

#12582 would have been made about 1866-67.

 

"Ordinary Metal Vibrators" would have been brass, "Silver Vibrators" would have been "German silver" = nickel silver, whilst all steel reeds are tempered...

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